now this is a great post and very well thought out. yes it definitely irks me this whole thing. its not the system approach its the fact that someone cant buy one piece like amps and live with what they have and then slowly upgrade into maybe some other gear in the line up when their funds permit. that may not bug you but it does me, and of course that is my opinion. only thing about your post i do not agree with is this lineI missed most of the fireworks on the thread that was evidently completely deleted. I guess there was a good reason.
It seems that many have opinions on Shindo, both informed and obviously uninformed. It seems many have opinions about this brand who have never heard or experienced the Shindo sound or flavor. That doesn't seem to stop people from posting what in retrospect are statements they regret. Maybe that is the reason a previous thread was not just closed, but deleted.
As to the fact that the systematic approach to Shindo among not only it's dealers but it's importer is preached to all prospective consumers has irked many on this site as well as another site I really am amazed you would get upset. Maybe it's because you all are used to dealers who are only too quick to lead you on and make the sale.
How many times have you bought a product and realized shortly thereafter you were not satisfied. You wind up selling it at a loss and move on to something else. Maybe if the proper approach was taken in the first place this could have been avoided.
I also think many are in the hobby for different reasons. There are the gear junkies and swappers, ready to try any and everything and experience as much possible equipment as time and money allows. Then there are the music lovers, searching endlessly for the best possible musical experience. I believe the happy Shindo end user falls into the latter category. The former end user will never be happy with Shindo or anything as the game and keeping score are completely different.
This is one of many reasons that Shindo forums become rather combative. Two completely different methods of approaching the hobby. I'm not saying which is right or wrong, just different.
Synergy is the key to excellent results, whether in high end audio, building a great car or bike or even creating a wonderful meal and wine combination. The pairings are what makes the all the parts work properly.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion and has their own taste but to carry on arguments with experts in their fields, when they are only trying to help does not make sense to me.
My Shindo experience has been nothing but stellar and wish I had run across this type of importer and dealer network many years ago.
" to carry on arguments with experts in their fields, when they are only trying to help does not make sense to me.
see to me the expert can have 200 years experience and that does not give him the right to tell me whats best for me or what i like to hear, there is no way he can know that. he may be just trying to help and i do appreciate that part and i would not argue with him just tell him he is wrong, but in the end i want what i want and if i cant get it ,than that part is what makes me upset. and in the other thread the "expert" was calling one of our best members here a liar and that is the only reason i got involved.
otherwise i dont really care who likes and dislikes any product anywhere as stated a million times that is their opinion. i would never make any statements about shindo gear as i never heard anything but a preamp a few years ago for a brief time. so i would not say anything good or bad about it.
but one more thing, we say lots of good and bad things about lots of gear here at the shark and its not a big deal. im going to hear a bunch of shindo gear in a couple weeks and if i dont like it this is the only product that i would not want to say bad things about because of the wrath it would bring. and jack is right in that point of his statements.
and thats not fair because just stating my opinion would definitely start another argument. maybe ill love it who knows but if i dont id like to be able to say it with out a war starting.