Get together at Bob's Rhapsody

Bob,

I totally understand and agree, but you have been so nice to us, how can I say no to you. I hope our relationship will be long and fruitful and anyway I can help, I will.

I really want to hear them, but to me, and I drag amps around all the time....amps that weigh 200+lbs......it's CRAZY to take your beautiful Art amps anywhere....to me, it's not right. But let's discuss....I don't mind moving whatever/whenever BUT if I do NOT have to move something I don't. Every time something is moved there is always the chance of even some little thing happening. Again, for me not worth the risk, unless it's necessary.
 
My first post here. Saw in the pictures a pair of Goldmund speakers in the room of the get together, but no one mentioned them yet, wondering did you guys had time to compare it to the Raidho or other speakers?
Omg siitech the goldmund stuff is awesome !!! Way out of my league and way too heavy to carry, but we setup both the smaller stereo amp and the huge monos and ran those speakers pretty good. We never moved the d3's out of the way and they still sounded great with a speaker right in front of em. I guess the reason we don't talk about them in here was because we were all on a raidho listening trip, I didn't even know Bob sold goldmund until I got there.
Was a nice bonus to hear something ill probably buy when my company goes public. Lmao!!!
J/K of course .
 
I am sitting here now listening to the Waves, with the Absolare amps, waiting for Nelson. I have two Goldmund active subs connected as well. It's quite an impressive system. It "floats the music" as a good SET should do if allowed to do so with the proper efficiency, which the Waves have.

Btw, the Waves can play spread VERY far apart, just like the Raidhos. I have the Waves on the outside of the D3's and they work great in this position.

I must be the exception, I don't like em at all...and I like most Swiss brands.

If they are at the show again this year, I will relisten....
 
I must be the exception, I don't like em at all...and I like most Swiss brands.

If they are at the show again this year, I will relisten....
I will give you my opinion on those next week :)
 
Thanks for the replies. I was just curious, not even knowing how much the Goldmund speakers cost.

Anyway, I am so very interested in the Raidho threads, I would soon beome a D1 owner.

Robert
 
Thanks for the replies. I was just curious, not even knowing how much the Goldmund speakers cost.

Anyway, I am so very interested in the Raidho threads, I would soon beome a D1 owner.

Robert
Nice Robert and welcome to the forum!! I'm biased because I'm shopping for monitors, but the d1's were awesome . And they banged the bass a little more than the c1.1 which is perfect for me , cause I listen to a lot of rock. Not hard rock but some.
The c1.1 were the best value though, and if I bought a pair it would probably be the c1.1 for the price is where I want to be. I'd have to save for awhile if I bought d1's lol!! Good luck
 
Thanks for the replies. I was just curious, not even knowing how much the Goldmund speakers cost.

Anyway, I am so very interested in the Raidho threads, I would soon beome a D1 owner.

Robert

Robert - congrats on the D1's. PLEASE remember to break them in for at least 250 hours (350-500 is better). Do NOT judge them until after the break in period. They morph quite a bit.

I've owned the D1's and now D3's. You're in for a real treat!

What amps will you be using?
 
I had a very nice and long conversation with Lars this morning. Here is what I took away from the conversation - There is NO bass upgrade kit for the D3's or any Raidho speakers.

Lars and Michael are really at the forefront of speaker design. They know EXACTLY what the Raidho speakers can and cannot do. Do the Raidho speakers have limitations? Yes they do. What are those limitations? If you try to drive them too hard ESPECIALLY in a very large space and especially with possibly not an ideal amplifier(s) match, it is possible to overdrive the speaker or in many cases the amplification that is driving the particular Raidho speaker, might clip.....it's just physics. One of the issues is that the sound of the Raidho is so clear and clean that there is a natural tendency to keep turning them up.

With the Raidho speakers, one of the finest family of speakers to have come along in a long time, you should be aware of your environment when choosing your particular Raidho speaker, ie. Size of your room, what type of music do you normally listen to, how loud do you play your music, what type of amplification are you planning on using etc. Case in point, if you play Zepplin at 105db in a large space and that is your thing (which there is nothing wrong with) then you are probably going to be best suited best with another type of speaker. The Raidho speakers or ANY other speaker for that matter are not going to suit everyone's requirements. That's ok. It really doesn't make sense to be asking speakers with 5ish inch drivers to be moving air in a large space at max pressure levels with highly dynamic source material. Why would you choose a Raidho speaker if this is your set of requirements? But don't say it should be doing something that literally it was not designed to do.

The way Lars and Michael have designed the speakers and their specific choice of components are what gives the Raidho speakers that magic that they deliver. Sure they could put larger drivers in the speakers and move more air and would not ever be over driven.....there are a thousand speakers out there like that.....the Raidhos do what they do because of the drivers that are used and yes they have limitations, but actually for most listeners they would never even reach the limitation level anyway.

If you would like to listen to either classical, jazz, light rock, regular rock, opera or really whatever genre of music and have an average size listening space, and appropriate "quality" amplification vs. "quantity of watts"....watts are definitely not the same among amplification manufacturers AND you are ok with listening in the 90db to 95db range and even higher with MOST source material, then the Raidho speakers which can deliver a soundstage that is literally gigantic (side to side and front to back) with the highest resolution of the entire soundstage that these ears have ever heard, then the Raidho's might be for you. Additionally layering and a "suck you into the music" sound that is provided by Raidho is really as good as it gets. Of course personal preference is always paramount but in general the Raidhos can reach heights until recently were unattainable. You just have to understand what the Raidho speakers can and cannot do. Then see if this all works for you or if not, that's ok as well. But don't say "Why can't that fish fly"? That's not what fishes were designed to do (except flying fishies I guess). Understand the Raidhos and their capabilities and limitations and see if they work for you.

Sorry for the long winded reply!

Bob, I respectfully have to disagree with you, the amps I've heard with the Raidho's are "not" clipping. The problem with the Raidho's are that the bass drivers are small and they can only do so much,it's a matter of physics. That they can do as much as they do is amazing !! But the amps are not the problem, the bass drivers can be overdriven with too much power !!
 
I was looking at a used pair of the C1.1 a few months ago, but before I decided on Raidho, they were gone. I lost patience waiting for another used pair, I went for the D1. Now that I read about someone prefers the C1.1 over the D1, I am a bit concerned.
 
I've heard both and would be happy with either. The treble and midrange is exactly the same but the bass is ever so slightly rounder and softer on the C1.1's. The bass on the D1's is slightly tighter and firmer, there is a bit more snap to the D1. What are your concerns and what kind of music do you like?


I was looking at a used pair of the C1.1 a few months ago, but before I decided on Raidho, they were gone. I lost patience waiting for another used pair, I went for the D1. Now that I read about someone prefers the C1.1 over the D1, I am a bit concerned.
 
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Mike,

Thank you! I have been using a pair of Linn Klimax Solo amps and Linn Klimax Kontrol pre for quite a while and like them a lot. I have not tried any Raidho speaker in my system.

I listened to the D1 in the last CES, and was really impressed. I chatted with Michael, and asked him if he had an opinion on Linn Klimax amps/Raidho compatibility, he said yes, the Raidho dealer in Hong Kong carries those 2 brands, he has listened to them in the same system, and he thought the match would be fine.

Anyway, I will find out pretty soon myself in my home.
 
I've heard both and would be happy with either. The treble and midrange is exactly the same but the bass is ever so slightly rounder and softer on the C1.1's. The bass on the D1's is slightly tighter and firmer, there is a bit more snap to the D1. What are your concerns and what kind of music do you like?

My concern was spending more money on the D1 if it is not better than the C1.1. Anyway, it is not a big concern, like you stated, both are great speakers. I am more worry about Raidho's compatibility with the rest of my system, as I have not had the chance to audition them in my home.
 
Hi Robert,

You are in for a treat with the D1's. I am learning that almost any amp will work perfectly with the Raidhos as long as you are not asking too much from them. Raidho speakers are not meant to play at concert levels in large rooms, but at sane levels they are STUNNING! They sound so different from any speaker that I've heard. The music seems to reach out to you, fill the room and get into your soul. They have the deepest, widest, tallest and lowest sound stage in terms of size. It's like the sound you get from headphones but it is in the room with you. It's amazing.

Joe
 
Dear Robert,

In my mind there is no doubt that the D-1 is a far better speaker than the C-1.1's.. It has much higher resolution, much higher dynamic headroom, much less mechanical noise and first of all it is a much better speaker when it comes to the music.. the D-1 get much closer to live... I am sure the D-1 will not dissapoint you :)
 
Joe,

i am really looking forward to getting the D1s. I listen to all kind of music, but more soft rock and chamber music, and I do not listen at concert level, the Raidho should be an ideal choice. At least on paper.

What impressed me most was the involvement in music I heard from the Raidho D1at the last CES.
 
Dear Robert,

In my mind there is no doubt that the D-1 is a far better speaker than the C-1.1's.. It has much higher resolution, much higher dynamic headroom, much less mechanical noise and first of all it is a much better speaker when it comes to the music.. the D-1 get much closer to live... I am sure the D-1 will not dissapoint you :)


That is so comforting to hear. Thank you for your reply, Michael.
 
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