Get together at Bob's Rhapsody

joeinid said:
Lars said there is NO bass kit so I am not sure where that came from. I'll have to follow up with kiwi and ask him.
Click to expand...

I had a very nice and long conversation with Lars this morning. Here is what I took away from the conversation - There is NO bass upgrade kit for the D3's or any Raidho speakers.

Lars and Michael are really at the forefront of speaker design. They know EXACTLY what the Raidho speakers can and cannot do. Do the Raidho speakers have limitations? Yes they do. What are those limitations? If you try to drive them too hard ESPECIALLY in a very large space and especially with possibly not an ideal amplifier(s) match, it is possible to overdrive the speaker or in many cases the amplification that is driving the particular Raidho speaker, might clip.....it's just physics. One of the issues is that the sound of the Raidho is so clear and clean that there is a natural tendency to keep turning them up.

With the Raidho speakers, one of the finest family of speakers to have come along in a long time, you should be aware of your environment when choosing your particular Raidho speaker, ie. Size of your room, what type of music do you normally listen to, how loud do you play your music, what type of amplification are you planning on using etc. Case in point, if you play Zepplin at 105db in a large space and that is your thing (which there is nothing wrong with) then you are probably going to be best suited best with another type of speaker. The Raidho speakers or ANY other speaker for that matter are not going to suit everyone's requirements. That's ok. It really doesn't make sense to be asking speakers with 5ish inch drivers to be moving air in a large space at max pressure levels with highly dynamic source material. Why would you choose a Raidho speaker if this is your set of requirements? But don't say it should be doing something that literally it was not designed to do.

The way Lars and Michael have designed the speakers and their specific choice of components are what gives the Raidho speakers that magic that they deliver. Sure they could put larger drivers in the speakers and move more air and would not ever be over driven.....there are a thousand speakers out there like that.....the Raidhos do what they do because of the drivers that are used and yes they have limitations, but actually for most listeners they would never even reach the limitation level anyway.

If you would like to listen to either classical, jazz, light rock, regular rock, opera or really whatever genre of music and have an average size listening space, and appropriate "quality" amplification vs. "quantity of watts"....watts are definitely not the same among amplification manufacturers AND you are ok with listening in the 90db to 95db range and even higher with MOST source material, then the Raidho speakers which can deliver a soundstage that is literally gigantic (side to side and front to back) with the highest resolution of the entire soundstage that these ears have ever heard, then the Raidho's might be for you. Additionally layering and a "suck you into the music" sound that is provided by Raidho is really as good as it gets. Of course personal preference is always paramount but in general the Raidhos can reach heights until recently were unattainable. You just have to understand what the Raidho speakers can and cannot do. Then see if this all works for you or if not, that's ok as well. But don't say "Why can't that fish fly"? That's not what fishes were designed to do (except flying fishies I guess). Understand the Raidhos and their capabilities and limitations and see if they work for you.

Sorry for the long winded reply!
 
Nice Bob that's kinda what I was saying about the absolares driving the raidhos in your big room. They just don't all work together. And it's not fair to ask them to.
With that said , I need to be hearing some more of what we heard tuesday and I bet the 100w snappers with be real nice on MY d1's lmao!!!!! , I bet those wave40's are breaking in nicely :)
 
Petro85 said:
Nice Bob that's kinda what I was saying about the absolares driving the raidhos in your big room. They just don't all work together. And it's not fair to ask them to.
With that said , I need to be hearing some more of what we heard tuesday and I bet the 100w snappers with be real nice on MY d1's lmao!!!!! , I bet those wave40's are breaking in nicely :)
Click to expand...

The pair of Waves that I received are already broken in...THANK GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bring those Snappers up here and let's play:exciting:
 
If you are ever in N Texas let me know and we will get something arranged. :)

I love to get different opinions and comments. There are always things / ways to improve a system that other people see.
 
Bob,

You are 100% correct. The Raidho play so clear and clean, they beg to be turned up. I don't play at the volumes we were playing on Tuesday so I'd be golden. For me, the 52 wpc Absolares would be enough. I just can not believe how great everything sounded.
 
joeinid said:
Bob,

You are 100% correct. The Raidho play so clear and clean, they beg to be turned up. I don't play at the volumes we were playing on Tuesday so I'd be golden. For me, the 52 wpc Absolares would be enough. I just can not believe how great everything sounded.
Click to expand...

Joe, you and me both. I've been listening to the D3's for the last few weeks now with the Absolare electronics. I listen a lot to that cd that Jerry brought from St. Louis. Btw, I called him yesterday asking for the playlist, but have not heard back yet. Anyway, I listen to all the songs both on that cd and other similar type cds. I also listen to full classical ie. Arnold's Overtures and then a lot of piano, violin, cello/trios and for me personally I NEVER drive the D3's beyond their comfort level. And I play them at the level that I like to listen at. Lately I have been checking the db meter when I feel like I am at a volume that I am 100% comfortable with and would NEVER turn the system up louder. Usually I am right around 90db with peaks of 95db. That is in my space. In a smaller, non dampened room, which mine definitely is, it would take much less power and drive to get the D3's to the same db level. The sound that I get with the Absolare amps on the D3's is pretty heavenly....again, for me. I really think that ANY good 50 Watt + tube amp would sound incredible with the D3's....I would LOVE to hear your CJ's on the D3's....I bet that it would be crazy good, probably even in a very large room!
 
Hi Bob,

I'd be willing to bring my CJ gear in on a quiet Sat or Sun for your listening pleasure. Having the parking garage so close is a bonus and now that I know the layout, we'll need to make it happen.



Absolare said:
Joe, you and me both. I've been listening to the D3's for the last few weeks now with the Absolare electronics. I listen a lot to that cd that Jerry brought from St. Louis. Btw, I called him yesterday asking for the playlist, but have not heard back yet. Anyway, I listen to all the songs both on that cd and other similar type cds. I also listen to full classical ie. Arnold's Overtures and then a lot of piano, violin, cello/trios and for me personally I NEVER drive the D3's beyond their comfort level. And I play them at the level that I like to listen at. Lately I have been checking the db meter when I feel like I am at a volume that I am 100% comfortable with and would NEVER turn the system up louder. Usually I am right around 90db with peaks of 95db. That is in my space. In a smaller, non dampened room, which mine definitely is, it would take much less power and drive to get the D3's to the same db level. The sound that I get with the Absolare amps on the D3's is pretty heavenly....again, for me. I really think that ANY good 50 Watt + tube amp would sound incredible with the D3's....I would LOVE to hear your CJ's on the D3's....I bet that it would be crazy good, probably even in a very large room!
Click to expand...
 
joeinid said:
Hi Bob,

I'd be willing to bring my CJ gear in on a quiet Sat or Sun for your listening pleasure. Having the parking garage so close is a bonus and now that I know the layout, we'll need to make it happen.
Click to expand...

On the weekend you can park literally right in front of the building and load onto a cart that I have. It is really easy on the weekends for moving in and out. If you can get them in your car and then drive em' in once you get here it's really easy. I think it really would be fun, if you ever get the urge, I am always up for it. I would bet that we would be in awe. I also think that Steve's Snappers would also hit the "awe" level on the meter.
 
Absolare said:
On the weekend you can park literally right in front of the building and load onto a cart that I have. It is really easy on the weekends for moving in and out. If you can get them in your car and then drive em' in once you get here it's really easy. I think it really would be fun, if you ever get the urge, I am always up for it. I would bet that we would be in awe. I also think that Steve's Snappers would also hit the "awe" level on the meter.
Click to expand...

I'll look into some travel cases for my amps and see what I come up with for transporting them.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top