Dynaudio Contour 60

Heard c60 many times and much dont like them, - esotar2 is just awful tweeter wich drilling the brains, - i am about esotar2 without back chamber as it is in confidence line, - in confidence line and higher, - esotar2 plays wery smooth.
So OP must just change tweetter to Esotar 330 with double magnet or even with esotec d280!!

Wish you luck to burn in period with c60 with esotar without back chamber, - it can get whole of your life, not only 500 hours)))
 
EugeniyDomashets said:
Heard c60 many times and much dont like them, - esotar2 is just awful tweeter wich drilling the brains, - i am about esotar2 without back chamber as it is in confidence line, - in confidence line and higher, - esotar2 plays wery smooth.
So OP must just change tweetter to Esotar 330 with double magnet or even with esotec d280!!

Wish you luck to burn in period with c60 with esotar without back chamber, - it can get whole of your life, not only 500 hours)))
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Pics please
 
EugeniyDomashets said:
Heard c60 many times and much dont like them, - esotar2 is just awful tweeter wich drilling the brains, - i am about esotar2 without back chamber as it is in confidence line, - in confidence line and higher, - esotar2 plays wery smooth.
So OP must just change tweetter to Esotar 330 with double magnet or even with esotec d280!!

Wish you luck to burn in period with c60 with esotar without back chamber, - it can get whole of your life, not only 500 hours)))
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The only drilling the brains Im experiencing is trying to read and comprehend your post.
 
Likely English is not the primary language.

A little deciphering might be required on your part dznuts. His post makes sense to me.
 
dznutz said:
What happened to the thread on Audiogon?
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Hi dznutz. Simple. They fixed my speakers and sent them back to me at the condition that i delete the post in audiogon. Elegance and savour faire are not their strenght. They should have accepted them back since the very beginning, one week after i recived the speakers, as soon as i asked them to activate the money-back procedure, which is a must in europe. This was their N1 fault. I think they learned something from the mess i did. As you sow i had to fight but i won. Now i'm breaking in the speakers again. Let's see. I'm not very optimistic.
 
Glad to hear, its amazing what a little public shaming can do. I would refuse to remove any public mention of my experience.

So what ended up being the problem with them?
 
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dznutz said:
I would refuse to remove any public mention of my experience.
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In theory i would refuse too. In practice, with 3.000 euro on the table (that was they asked at the beginning to fix them), my stoicism vanished.

What the problem was i still do not know. I'm burning them in with the 400xi Krell. I do not lissen to them. I put them in a room in the countryside, with no one there, playing full time at medium volume. It's the only way for me break them in without getting crazy.
 
^ Sounds like extortion to me... "Obtaining benefit through persuasion or threat. " The threat here being you'll have to pay us $3,000 if you refuse.
 
Spread them wider apart than normal. They were maybe 15 feet apart and about 3 feet from the back wall when I heard them and they rocked. I like Dyns so maybe I am biased.
 
For you Dynaudio guys, I don't want to change my integrated Hegel h360 so for a grand more a pair of C4's can be had instead of the C60, but I wonder which would actually sound better with my gear?
 
david rossmann said:
What the problem was i still do not know.

I'm burning them in with the 400xi Krell. I do not lissen to them. I put them in a room in the countryside, with no one there, playing full time at medium volume. It's the only way for me break them in without getting crazy.
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Good luck David.

I also own the Contour 60. I have been very pleased with my pair. In fact, I’m convinced there is no better pair of speakers for the money, especially the price that I paid for mine through my long time dealer.

These speakers do it all and do it well in my room, with my gear.

These speakers are literally one of the cheapest pieces of my system, hell even my speaker cables cost more (a lot more) than the speakers themselves (not proud of that, just the way the cookie crumbled while building my system).

Regarding Dyn break in, yes it’s a well known phenomenon but I believe that this new generation of Dyn speakers, especially speaking about Contour series, do not require an obscene amount of break in time.

My Contour 30’s I purchased soon after they were released, sounded pretty bad at first, nothing like the demo in my dealer’s home. After 75-100 hours, they were making sweet music and never looked back. Fast forward a few years, I bought the 60’s and these gems have sounded great from day 1, right out of the box. Yes, they improved with time but never once did they sound bad, far from it.



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I agree that the Contour 60s represent one of the best value for money speaker purchases I have come across. The only issue I had with them was slightly boomy bass. But at that price, there has to some imperfection!
 
AJR said:
I agree that the Contour 60s represent one of the best value for money speaker purchases I have come across. The only issue I had with them was slightly boomy bass. But at that price, there has to some imperfection!
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The boomy bass was the main reason i wanted send them back after the first week. Listening to whatever jazz recording was make me feeling as my house was collapsing. Total nonsense to me. I see it coming that i will sell them out after the break in if i don't find a solution to contain that bass.
 
david rossmann said:
The boomy bass was the main reason i wanted send them back after the first week. Listening to whatever jazz recording was make me feeling as my house was collapsing. Total nonsense to me. I see it coming that i will sell them out after the break in if i don't find a solution to contain that bass.
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Boomy bass could be the result of interaction with your room. It appears AJR’s “slightly boomy” becomes very boomy in your room. Sounds to me like you need sealed bass.
 
This is a fun and sometimes funny hobby. Every room, system is so different even when same speakers employed. My room has no bass bloat or boom issue with the Contour 60. In fact, I recently added (4) REL s/812 subs stacked 2x2 behind the 60s, with sub gains set low. Bass is perfect now. Of course I pull the 60s well out into the room and mine is a dedicated media room build, sound panel treated and sound proofed construction etc.


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j3brow said:
Good luck David.

Regarding Dyn break in, yes it’s a well known phenomenon but I believe that this new generation of Dyn speakers, especially speaking about Contour series, do not require an obscene amount of break in time.

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It was difficult but finally i got a clear answer by dynaudio itself (afer sending the same mail abut 10 times). They said 500 hours is the minimum for the contour 60.
 
david rossmann said:
It was difficult but finally i got a clear answer by dynaudio itself (afer sending the same mail abut 10 times). They said 500 hours is the minimum for the contour 60.
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IIRC, I think I mentioned a value around this number for run-in a while back. IIRC, the Special 40 requires about 450 hours of break in.

And, just to support the fact that speaker break-in is for real, check out this video by Danny Richie of GR-Audio. This guy knows what he talking about as the designs and manufactures speaker systems as a profession.

https://youtu.be/SIOjjle8Kxw
 
david rossmann said:
The boomy bass was the main reason i wanted send them back after the first week. Listening to whatever jazz recording was make me feeling as my house was collapsing. Total nonsense to me. I see it coming that i will sell them out after the break in if i don't find a solution to contain that bass.
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If you have bass problems in your house, its due to improper isolation of the speakers, not the speakers themselves. You speakers can, and often do, couple to your floor, your walls and ceiling. I just watched a YT video on New Record Day where the presenter was saying that his fireplace was coupling to the speakers from his sub-woofer. You might consider getting some EVPs from A/V Roomservice. These things really work, and they sell to customers around the world.

EVPs:
http://avroomservice.com/evp-2/

I recommend you watch these videos for more information; Norm Varney is one of the most knowledgeable people in the world when it comes to room acoustics and audio.

https://youtu.be/Cp7r9olKRJQ

https://youtu.be/6G4HF6wJG38

This information will help get your situation sussed.
 
There's another thread on AG the owners new speakers had way to much output in the 100 hz area and I think he ended up with dirac after bass traps' placement adjustments, and packing the ports with plugs didn't help. It does seem strange that the C60 excites the room when the last pair didn't. I always thought "break in" was an excuse so we would be stuck with a product we were unsatisfied with until the return date expired. however, that was back in the day and all the shops still standing around here won't take my money unless i'm satisfied . One of the perks of buying new I guess.
 
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