Dynaudio Contour 60

No Mike, i not demoed the speakers in advance. The same i did with the contour 3.3. With the c3.3 great surprise, with the c60 a nightmare.
But in someway you are right. It's my fault.
 
david rossmann said:
No Mike, i not demoed the speakers in advance. The same i did with the contour 3.3. With the c3.3 great surprise, with the c60 a nightmare.
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To be fair, you aren’t the first and won’t be the last to buy speakers without demoing them first. I purchased a few myself without hearing them first and they turned out to be nightmares! SF Aida’s come to mind. That being said, the new version of the Aida sounds quite a bit better. But I digress...

Anyway, I think you should just post them for sale and move on. You have lots of great options in Europe for speakers. Maybe look in your own backyard!
 
I wouldn’t lose money selling them without exhausting my dealers inventory of power amps first, even gear I cannot afford if I only to get a handle on why such well regarded speakers suck. It’s possible they’re defective from the factory, unlikely but possible.
 
steve59 said:
I wouldn’t lose money selling them without exhausting my dealers inventory of power amps first, even gear I cannot afford if I only to get a handle on why such well regarded speakers suck. It’s possible they’re defective from the factory, unlikely but possible.
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my problem is that my dealer is 2000 km far away. In the area i live in Italy there are no dealers at all :|. So it's pretty complicated to play the try and error game. The last try i will give is by replacing my old linn monobloks with one krell 400xi which i found for 1.000 euro on ebay. Let's see.
 
Krell & Dynaudio are typically a good match.

david rossmann said:
my problem is that my dealer is 2000 km far away. In the area i live in Italy there are no dealers at all :|. So it's pretty complicated to play the try and error game. The last try i will give is by replacing my old linn monobloks with one krell 400xi which i found for 1.000 euro on ebay. Let's see.
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Mr Peabody said:
Krell & Dynaudio are typically a good match.
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The Krell KAV 400xi arrived very quickly.
The sound improved in every sense. My Linn/Phase-Linear set-up had an output of 240w x ch 4 Ohm, now i get 400 w x ch.
However the sound is still congested towards the center. There is no air around the musical scene.
That is one of the impressive characteristics i experience with the contour 3.3.
Could that be a speaker positioning issue?
Less boomy as before, bass is more controlled.
Still missing the C3.3.
 
Not sure how the C60's are positioned in your room but you may to try spreading them out further and toeing them in more to try and get more focus in the center. I personally found with Dyn's due to their wide dispersion tweeters that too much toe in can cause some pretty bright highs. But that was also with C2's and not so much with C1's. The other thing you might try is even less toe in but that may take away the focus in the center imaging.

That said since Goertek took over as the majority shareholder I feel they have voiced their speakers differently. IMO instead of being a very natural sound from top to bottom they now have even deeper but sloppier lows with a more forward mids and highs. I can see where that sound would appeal to some folks but not all - like me. I also have yet to hear the new confidence cf series. As much as I loved Dyn's and I was a super hard Dyn fan to me they went off in a direction that is not my cup of tea. Could be why you prefer the C3.3. I liked the C3.4 and C5.4 but really disliked the 3.4LE. I felt to was much brighter and forward.
 
Honestly, 150 hours is nothing on breaking in a Dynaudio. Maybe let them play while no one is home to bother if the occasion arises to get more hours in.

They do love some current like the Krell can provide.

Is the soundstage all in the center or is it more like the mids are compressed, lack of air around instruments/vocals? I would try some experimenting with speaker placement to see if it effects your issue either way.

I thought the 60's sounded good when I heard them at the show, I think they were using Levinson. I actually heard two rooms with them. I can't remember what electronics on the other. But the show isn't like having a good sit down listen in a familiar environment.

I do hope whatever is causing the issue gets worked out, I can certainly empathize with having bought a piece of disappointing gear.
 
I listened to the C60s for an hour the other day in a far from optimal setting. They were spread out wider than most people have room to do and they just disappeared leaving a wall of music. Electronics were the Luxman 505uxii I am about to order with the Luxman D06 player and a Chord DAC. Fabulous sound. When switching from the Dyns to the DeVor o93s, it was a little bit of a disappointment even though the DeVores sound great.

The Grey Oak High Gloss was stunning as a finish.
 
As an aside, Jeff Fritz, Editor-In-Chief of the Soundstage! Network, was looking for speakers for his new reference system and was seriously considering the C60s (before ultimately choosing Vimberg Tondas). As a point of reference, his previous references were Magico Q7s (165,000 USD MSRP). Although his new reference is intentionally scaled toward a more affordable system, I doubt he would have even mentioned the C60s if he didn't hold them in high regard. So like others on this thread, I am puzzled by David's bad experience and would second Mr Peabody's suggestion to look carefully into speaker positioning aspects.
 
+1 on the C60's. To my ears I have never understood the passion for DeVor. When I heard them Bass was lacking, not a balanced response at all.

Shadowfax said:
I listened to the C60s for an hour the other day in a far from optimal setting. They were spread out wider than most people have room to do and they just disappeared leaving a wall of music. Electronics were the Luxman 505uxii I am about to order with the Luxman D06 player and a Chord DAC. Fabulous sound. When switching from the Dyns to the DeVor o93s, it was a little bit of a disappointment even though the DeVores sound great.

The Grey Oak High Gloss was stunning as a finish.
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The krell 400xi is the kav300il with a slightly reshaped volume switch, internals, faceplate, everything else is the same and they lowered the price $1000 when announced. The kav300il cured the ill's of a couple different speakers I had and if you can keep it from getting too hot I think once you get placement right you'll finally be able to forget about those 3.3's.
 
I haven't heard the C60 enough to compare directly to the Confidence 4. I will say I can't think of many speakers that presented such a realistic imaging as the C4. Meaning, closing my eyes the C4 is one of the top speakers I've heard that could come close to fooling me a live band is playing. It's difficult to put into words, it's like the instruments are so exact and sound stage is shaped like i'd imagine the band, cymbals float at right height, drum kits are grounded, they really can be magic.
 
I've had threads pulled that merely described my latest system impressions. The forum admin on ag does lack consistency in what it does and does not allow.
 
I still find it extremely funny that David Rossman has fallen off the face of the earth
 
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