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That is true, there is big chineese community in Italy. They all went to China for the Chineese new year, which happened to be in the middle of the outbreak, and many came back with the virus. That is how it started in Italy.
 
in italy people come with blue lips to the hospital asking for help and oxygen and get refused because there is no place, they go home and die and dont even get collected.
 
Thanks I didn't realize that.

Elberoth said:
That is true, there is big chineese community in Italy. They all went to China for the Chineese new year, which happened to be in the middle of the outbreak, and many came back with the virus. That is how it started in Italy.
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Elberoth said:
There is an interesting study from Italy. What if we fell victim to ... panic ? What if the virus is nowhere as deadly as we think it is ?

More than 99% of Italy’s coronavirus fatalities were people who suffered from previous medical conditions,

The Rome-based institute has examined medical records of about 18% of the country’s coronavirus fatalities, finding that just three victims, or 0.8% of the total, had no previous pathology.

The average age of those who’ve died from the virus in Italy is 79.5. As of March 17, 17 people under 50 had died from the disease. All of Italy’s victims under 40 have been males with serious existing medical conditions.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...-died-from-virus-had-other-illness-italy-says
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There are still healthy people dying of the disease or ending up on a ventilator. There is a 40 year old EM doctor in the ICU and a 60 year old EM doctor in the ICU. Here in MN we have a 38 year old with no risk factors on a ventilator. Yes, more older people are dying. I am scared shitless as I am 61 and have 3 risk factors that increases my risk of dying to 10-15%. I have well controlled hypertension (which according to the chinese is a huge risk factor) well controlled diabetes and asthma. I have a reason to panic but I still see patients with cough, fever and shortness of breath. This virus is the real deal. Most will be fine but if you have risk factors ( and I bet at least a billion people do) then you have a good reason to be scared. We could see the geriatric population be decimated across the globe.

How many people on this forum have hypertension, pulmonary disease, heart disease, kidney or liver disease, diabetes or some sort of neuromuscular or autoimmune disorder? Or at least have family members that do?

Another 450 people dead over night in Italy reported today!
 
Thought this was interesting and well explained - Zinc Ionephore and others, jump to 1:20 for the info
 
Swisstrips said:
Thought this was interesting and well explained - Zinc Ionephore and others, jump to 1:20 for the info
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Yup...we discussed this a week or so ago. Looks like FDA will be allowing Chloroquine and Hyrdoxychloroquine to be used for COVID-19, it was announced today.
 
Puma Cat said:
Yup...we discussed this a week or so ago. Looks like FDA will be allowing Chloroquine and Hyrdoxychloroquine to be used for COVID-19, it was announced today.
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It's not up to the FDA, there are no restrictions on the use of these or any already approved medications. However, other than NOT using steroids, it's far from clear what if any treatments directed at the virus itself will work, or work best.

YouTube is hardly a peer-reviewed scientific publication :S
 
There will not be a viable vaccine for at least a year which pretty much means we will all have already gotten the virus and either fight it off or die before then. There is no way we can be kept at home for over a year.

My company is now involved in whatever Clinical Trials there are or will be. I am very thankful now that I work within the Big Pharma industry because I still have a job and can work from home as directed for at least the next 8 weeks.
 
rbbert said:
It's not up to the FDA, there are no restrictions on the use of these or any already approved medications. However, other than NOT using steroids, it's far from clear what if any treatments directed at the virus itself will work, or work best.

YouTube is hardly a peer-reviewed scientific publication :S
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We are not allowed to prescribe these 2 drugs. It is being reserved for hospitalized patients. We have already had a few patients that wanted prescriptions for them.
 
Mechnutt said:
We are not allowed to prescribe these 2 drugs. It is being reserved for hospitalized patients. We have already had a few patients that wanted prescriptions for them.
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Who is “we”? Except for most pharmacies not having any at the moment, there are no restrictions on prescribing either drug in the western US at least (I haven’t checked elsewhere), in fact many rheumatic patients need to take Plaquenil daily. And most daily medical bulletins (as well as Dr. Fauci) are urging caution in their use to treat COVID19.
 
kiwi_1282001 said:
Coronavirus: Wuhan recovery gives rest of world hope, says WHO


GENEVA (AFP) - The World Health Organisation said on Friday (March 20) that the original epicentre in China of the coronavirus outbreak at last reporting no new cases gave hope to the rest of the world battling the pandemic.


The city of Wuhan registered no new cases of Covid-19 in 24 hours - for the first time since reporting its first case in December in an outbreak that has gone on to infect more than 250,000 people around the world and kill more than 11,000 people.


"Yesterday, Wuhan reported no new cases for the first time since the outbreak started," WHO chief Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus told a virtual news conference in Geneva.

"Wuhan provides hope for the rest of the world that even the most severe situation can be turned around.


"Of course, we must exercise caution; the situation can reverse. But the experience of cities and countries that have pushed back this coronavirus gives hope and courage to the rest of the world."


China as a whole is now reporting only a handful of new infections each day - all of them apparently from overseas visitors - as the crisis has shifted from Asia to Europe, which has now reported more deaths than China.




Source: https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/e...an-recovery-gives-rest-of-world-hope-says-who


Ps. The city of Wuhan has been under lock down for 2 months. Movement restrictions have been eased but routes into and out of the city remain blocked for the time being.
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That is good news.
 
rbbert said:
Who is “we”? Except for most pharmacies not having any at the moment, there are no restrictions on prescribing either drug in the western US at least (I haven’t checked elsewhere), in fact many rheumatic patients need to take Plaquenil daily. And most daily medical bulletins (as well as Dr. Fauci) are urging caution in their use to treat COVID19.
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Here in MN! Yes, we can prescribe it for non COVID illnesses like RA. The issue is that this is a worldwide problem and the drug must be saved for the severely ill COVID patients. People want to take it as a preventative or have it on hand if they get sick. There is not enough drug to go around. We are already have patients come in or call wanting the drug.

And this is what is happening just like food and toilet paper-

https://www.washingtonpost.com/busi...t-supplies-an-unproven-coronavirus-treatment/

I am in the front line seeing patients daily with coughs, fevers, shortness of breath and I don't have access to the drugs for me or my family. Neither do all the hospital employees and we are more at risk than the general public. If fact. There is a shortage of PPE gear for healthcare professionals because the public is hoarding it.

And here is another article demonstrating the issue-

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...irus-survey-n1164841?cid=par-xfinity_20200321
 
US does not have enough test kits.
US does not have enough PPE, gowns, masks for medical workers.
US does not have enough hospital beds.
US does not have enough drugs for front line workers.
US public is hoarding the drugs.
US has 2 months prep time and did nothing.

^That is not a superpower. That is a third world country.
 
IMO you should not be using hydroxychloroquine for your severely ill Covid patients. In Nevada and California, at least, the state medical boards have circulated evidence-based (as much as possible) guidelines, and like every other professional organization around the world, those drugs (hydroxychloroquine, chloroquine, azithromycin) are not among the currently recommended treatments, although they may become part of some of the ongoing or future studies.
 
rbbert said:
IMO you should not be using hydroxychloroquine for your severely ill Covid patients. In Nevada and California, at least, the state medical boards have circulated evidence-based (as much as possible) guidelines, and like every other professional organization around the world, those drugs (hydroxychloroquine, chloroquine, azithromycin) are not among the currently recommended treatments, although they may become part of some of the ongoing or future studies.
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That is because the results of the benefits of Hydroxychloroquine is anecdotal at best given the relatively small number of patients that has seen improvement of their illness is so small and patients still died on the drug.
 
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