TAD CR-1's with the JOB 225 - I am impressed and in disbelief ....

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For anyone thinking about buying this amp, whip out your credit card - it's time. I give it my seal of approval. I finally hooked it up to my TADs and I am literally in disbelief. How does it sound? In a word - Awesome! I need to put my ears within a few inches of the tweeter/midrange to hear any noise with nothing playing so I'd say it's pretty quiet. Bass is NOT a problem. There is almost too much bass from this thing. The sound stage is very wide and comes from the speaker into the room with some depth to the front wall. There is a clarity (absolutely zero harshness) that is undeniable with air around voices and instruments. It's the kind of clarity that invites you to turn up the volume and really enjoy what you are hearing but after a little while you realize, holy cow that was loud. I can relate that experience to my Cornwall III's. You are rocking out and when the music stops you realize that was way too loud, what was I thinking. So be careful. It has only been playing for a few hours from cold. I heard some congestion typical of amps warming up but after about thirty minutes to an hour or so it opened up nicely. I had been running it virtually non-stop since I bought it and I am sure it has several hundred hours on it by now. It's a Class A/B amp and runs pretty warm but it is not unbearable. After cranking the tunes a while, the top of the unit, as measured by my Fluke infrared thermometer, reaches just under 100 degrees F and the heat-sinks on the back measure just under 140 degrees F. It specs out at 125 wpc into 8 ohms but nothing is listed for 4 ohms. At no point, for me, do I feel it's underpowered. Quite the contrary. I have not done any immediate testing compared to Dartzeel or Dagostino, yet. If I was smart, I'd sell the amps (pocket a ton of money) and maybe order one more. If I felt the need, I'd bi-amp them but that's crazy talk (no not really). I personally prefer preamps in the chain but for those who don't, the JOB 225 can be the heart of a superb system. I am sure I'll have more to say so stay tuned.

The JOB 225 is just an amazing piece. There is some caution about it passing DC (from poorly designed tube preamps) in the owners manual but obviously I am not having any issues. All is great in my world. :exciting:

TECHNICAL DATA

POWER

  • Nominal Power: 125W on 8 Ohms per channel
  • Power RMS (Goldmund FPP Standard): 210W on 8 Ohms each channel
  • Nominal line voltage: 117 V
  • Input voltage range: +/- 15 %.

FREQUENCY RESPONSE
These figures are valid for any level between 0 and nominal power.

  • +/- 0.5 dB, 10 Hz - .1 MHz.
  • +/- 3 dB, 2 Hz - 0.9 MHz.

INPUT SENSITIVITY

  • Nominal level : 0.75 V.
  • Unbalanced only (RCA).
  • 51k input impedance.

GROUP DELAY LINEARITY

  • Propagation delay < 80 ns stable with frequency from 2Hz to 200 kHz.

DISTORTION
Figures valid for all levels from 0 to 25 V / 8 Ohms.

  • Dynamic : TID < 0.01 % (- 80 dB).
  • Static : THD < 0.01 % (- 80 dB).

SPEED

  • Slew rate : > 60 V/m s.
  • Rise time : < 200 ns.

NOISE

  • Weighted ASA A : > 100 dB.

OPERATING TEMPERATURE

  • Room temperature : -30 to +40 degrees Celsius ( -22 to +104 degrees Fahrenheit).
  • Internal temperature : +45 to +65 degrees Celsius ( +113 to +149 degrees Fahrenheit).

POWER SUPPLY

  • Nominal line voltage : 117 V.
  • Toroidal Power Transformer to minimize radiated noise
  • 2 separated power supplies (left and right)
  • Maximum power consumption : 450 W.

SIZE AND WEIGHT

  • 36cm (11.8") W x 24.5cm (11.2") D x 8.8cm (2.4") H. - Weight : 7kg (15.4 lbs) net.

FINISH

  • Dark Grey anodized metal.

WARRANTY

  • 1 year parts and labor.
 
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Who would have thought this little amp had the balls to compete in the big leagues. How does it sound compared to your Carver tube amp? Does it have that "tube magic" or does it do other things so well that you don't even care? Thanks for the write up.

You could always get three more of these, with all the cash you have from selling your other amps, to bi-amp those new gently used Aida's you'll be getting soon.
 
Who would have thought this little amp had the balls to compete in the big leagues. How does it sound compared to your Carver tube amp? Does it have that "tube magic" or does it do other things so well that you don't even care? Thanks for the write up.

You could always get three more of these, with all the cash you have from selling your other amps, to bi-amp those new gently used Aida's you'll be getting soon.

LOL. You guys are too funny.

Joe - big congrats! You knew the heritage of this little gem and took a chance and it sounds like it has paid off in spades! Good for you!! I'm glad you like it. What was that link on Amazon again? :)

Mike
 
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These babies? http://www.goldmund.com/en/products/telos_1000plus
 
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Who would have thought this little amp had the balls to compete in the big leagues. How does it sound compared to your Carver tube amp? Does it have that "tube magic" or does it do other things so well that you don't even care? Thanks for the write up.

You could always get three more of these, with all the cash you have from selling your other amps, to bi-amp those new gently used Aida's you'll be getting soon.

Hi Doug,

The Carver sounds good on the TADs but you know there's not enough juice on tap. It's not bad and can be very enjoyable but something a little more powerful would help open up the TADs. For moderate and late night listening, the Carver is a fun little amp. Mike might be surprised with three JOB 225's on those Aida's. The JOB is not tube-like but natural like the Dartzeel but it seems ballsier. It's an amazing amp.

LOL. You guys are too funny.

Joe - big congrats! You knew the heritage of this little gem and took a chance and it sounds like it has paid off in spades! Good for you!! I'm glad you like it. What was that link on Amazon again? :)

Mike

Thanks Mike,


Amazon.com: JOB 225 2-channel Power Amplifier: Electronics

This amp sounds freaking awesome on my TAD CR-1's. I shake my head in disbelief. I think I may need to populate the shark tank :)

Joe u r a brave man to hook up to your CR-1. I wonder how a goldmund telos might sound. B safe and enjoy.

Nick

Nick,

I was a little scared, but felt reasonably comfortable nothing would happen. You really need to try this baby out. You'll swear it sounds like a $10-15K amp.

Of course, now I have Goldmund dreams ..... :heart:
 
Joe, Isn't it fun to find inexpensive gear that rivals the high dollar stuff ?? I love putting together a system that can play with the big boys, and cost a fraction of the more expensive stuff !!!

:woot:
 
Joe, Isn't it fun to find inexpensive gear that rivals the high dollar stuff ?? I love putting together a system that can play with the big boys, and cost a fraction of the more expensive stuff !!!

:woot:

You are the King of value my friend. I am totally satisfied with this purchase.

Thats awesome Joe. I'm so tempted, but I keep telling myself that I need to sell stuff first. :(

Jock,

It's ONLY $1499 plus shipping. How can you beat that? I am using a Shunyata Venom3 but purchased the JOB Sweetcord and will change it out over the weekend to see if I hear a difference.
 
True but pretty soon I'll have to take my chair out of my room to fit it all in. Kidding but in all reality, I did take over a spare 10x12 bedroom that my wife thought was empty after we gave her brother the furniture last year. I keep putting my spares in there and last month my wife opened that door and almost fell over because she could almost not walk into the room with "my junk". she did have a grin when she said junk . . . . lets just say, I'm really really lucky she is a good sport with my hobby, at least this one. :)

I suppose I could reorganize that room a little :ninja: and she will never notice. hmmmm
 
Ha!

Oh, do I know the feeling. This little amp is worth a try, but please make sure none of your sources output DC for the amp to pass to your speakers. I am still at a bit of a loss as to how I know for sure, but always experiment on cheap speakers first.
 
Hi Doug,

The Carver sounds good on the TADs but you know there's not enough juice on tap. It's not bad and can be very enjoyable but something a little more powerful would help open up the TADs. For moderate and late night listening, the Carver is a fun little amp. Mike might be surprised with three JOB 225's on those Aida's. The JOB is not tube-like but natural like the Dartzeel but it seems ballsier. It's an amazing amp.



Thanks Mike,


Amazon.com: JOB 225 2-channel Power Amplifier: Electronics

This amp sounds freaking awesome on my TAD CR-1's. I shake my head in disbelief. I think I may need to populate the shark tank :)



Nick,

I was a little scared, but felt reasonably comfortable nothing would happen. You really need to try this baby out. You'll swear it sounds like a $10-15K amp.

Of course, now I have Goldmund dreams ..... :heart:

Joe, Howie is looking at Gryphon!!!!!!!!!!!! "GARAGE SALE!" :D
 
Joe, I think this is what you want!:P Check out this demo sale!:amazing::amazing:

Demo Sale

goldmund-demo01.jpg

Rhapsody Music & Cinema is offering the following FULL Goldmund Epilogue Reference "demo" system for sale:

The demo package includes:

♦ Epilogue Full System - Goldmund - Epilogue full system

♦ Goldmund Telos 1000 amplifiers SIX EACH - Goldmund - Telos 1000+

♦ Goldmund Mimesis 16 processor - Goldmund - Mimesis 16.5

♦ All system cables, complete installation and full one year warranty are included

List price $900,000 Selling price $350,000


The Telos 1000 amps are $100K each MSRP!:bonkers:
 
Haha, sorry, wrote that quick before my wife rushed me out of the house (son's school dance).

Congrats on the test with the TADs, Joe! Seems like you found a great little amp! I searched Goldmund on the way home after reading your posts and found the above link. Amazing as you say!

Is the Job going to stay in your system longer term now?
 
Haha, sorry, wrote that quick before my wife rushed me out of the house (son's school dance).

Congrats on the test with the TADs, Joe! Seems like you found a great little amp! I searched Goldmund on the way home after reading your posts and found the above link. Amazing as you say!

Is the Job going to stay in your system longer term now?

Absolutely. I have plans ..... :rolleyes: More will be revealed in time.

Gotta love a great value. Bi amp em!!!!!

I would have no problem ordering a second to try a bi-amp as an experiment. Honestly, I don't need the power. One is plenty.
 
your avatar makes me think Telos 280 may b perfect companion for cr-1. It now has option for balanced inputs. New York dealer lovers it with tube pre-say it can compete with anything. Appears like Rhapsody cinema may b only dealer in USA. Wish I could hear it as it has more than twice the power and more upscale options than a job.
Nick
 
your avatar makes me think Telos 280 may b perfect companion for cr-1. It now has option for balanced inputs. New York dealer lovers it with tube pre-say it can compete with anything. Appears like Rhapsody cinema may b only dealer in USA. Wish I could hear it as it has more than twice the power and more upscale options than a job.
Nick

I'd like to hear other Goldmund gear based on my experience with the JOB amp. I have no experience with the Telos 280 but I think it one of their least expensive options I'd consider.
 
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