New Magico speakers arriving 04/2015!
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I very much agree with this IF they can make the Q5 more efficient. It is an incredibly difficult load right now.
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Agree with Howard as well. A Q5 mkII with new tweeter and graphene based midrange would be my pick as well. But the current pricing of the Q5 is already above my limit. 
Mark, I would be disappointed if the S7 didn't have at least the new tweeter. That's the piece that is making the S7 lust worthy for me. Graphene based midrange would be icing on the cake.
Mark, I would be disappointed if the S7 didn't have at least the new tweeter. That's the piece that is making the S7 lust worthy for me. Graphene based midrange would be icing on the cake.
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True, I just don't want to get mine and everyone's hopes up.
BlueFox
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I bet they add a separate chamber, like the S3, for the mid. When I was there a couple of weeks ago one thing I learned is how important the right size chamber is necessary for each driver for it to work optimally.
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Hope you wouldn't be too disappointed when you find out the S7 has 8" woofers and the same midrange and tweeter as the S3/5.
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Dan, the Nano-tube dust caps are too big to be 8's. Take a closer look. And it wouldn't make sense designing a flagship S series speaker with S3 bass drivers on the back of the M Project.
Interesting observation. For my environment, I would prefer 3 8" woofers than 3 10", and put the emphasis on enhancing the mid and tweeter drivers/configuration.
However from the picture, the relative sizes are such that the woofers look like 10" ones. They must have prototype by now that it is early April.
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Okay guys, let's concentrate on the new speakers. It is already April the 3rd, and no announcement!!!! :disbelief:
Uuh... getting closer, now we just need specs.
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This is interesting. I am sure I will as well reside with the minority here, but I would be quite happy with 3 x 8" woofers for my environment as well. 3 x 10" will make them humongous, but personally I guess it would not fit range wise, as the S5 already has 2 x 10". As the even Q3 has 7" woofers it would be possible (although it is a tad light on the bass side). And they indeed do not look like 8" woofers.
That said, an S7 with a plain S3/S5 tweeter/mid setup and 3 x 10" woofers would be a severe disappointment. It should have either the new tweeter or mid, ideally both. Needs to bring something new to the range, except just one more woofer, especially as the S5 already has superb bass with a 2 x 10" setup.
I guess the woofers should be larger than 8". Otherwise the total cone areas would likely be slightly smaller than the 2 10" of the S5. So lets say it they are 10". From the picture, the width of the baffle looks wider than that of the S5. I don't see a good reason for this except possibly trying to obtain a larger acoustic volume for the bass region. The S7 will likely have awesome bass.
Another possibility is to have one of the 10" handle upper/mid bass for a 4-way design. But then why not use a smaller driver, such as an 8" for such purpose?
Another possibility is to have one of the 10" handle upper/mid bass for a 4-way design. But then why not use a smaller driver, such as an 8" for such purpose?
I honestly don't know, Howard. I really hope they do. I consider the diamond coated beryllium tweeter and graphene midrange to be major advancements in speaker technology. It would be great to see as many of the Magico speakers as possible receive this upgrade if cost allows it.
Ken
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Adam, my Dealer said all the info will be available next week. I'd assume all the Dealer network are getting briefed at the same time?
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Adam, got you covered. Official specs are in & ok to publish, and as usual Audioshark is first off the blocks
..."The S7 is a full range, 3-way design, floor standing loudspeaker that incorporates new tweeter, midrange and bass driver designs which are derived from the engineering triumphs in the MProject loudspeaker. Towering over other S-Series models, the acoustic suspension enclosure of the S7 features curved aluminum side panels that are machined in-house from half-inch thick aluminum extrusions which are sixteen-inches in diameter. Internal bracing is carefully positioned throughout the enclosure to minimize resonances and create an ideal operating environment. The S7 houses three new 10-inch bass drivers that have extremely powerful magnets and ultrastiff aluminum cones which are capable of producing deep powerful bass frequencies with speed and accuracy. The excursion rate of the voice coil is measured at 15-mm linear movement and produces clean and undistorted sound pressure levels up to 120dB @ 50Hz / 1-meter. The midrange driver (6-inch) in the S7 brings a new benchmark of measured performance to Magico. The cone material is formulated using Arkema Multi-Wall carbon nanotube and XG Sciences C-750 Nanographene which combined is 20% lighter and 300% stiffer than previous cone material designs. The underhung neodymium base motor system uses two extra-large magnets which provide an ultra-stabilized magnetic field for the pure titanium voice coil to operate within. The driver operates in a purpose built sub-enclosure made of a proprietary polymer material that was first introduced in the S3. The S7 incorporates a new (1-inch) tweeter that features a diamond-coated beryllium diaphragm with optimized geometry, created using state-of-the-art Finite Element analysis modeling tools. This purpose built tweeter has extra-long excursion movement and uses a neodymium based motor system that is customized to match the sensitivity and power handling capabilities of the S7 while maintaining ultra-wide dispersion characteristics and ultra-low distortion measurements. All five drivers in the S7 are acoustically integrated using Magico’s exclusive Elliptical Symmetry Crossover topology that includes state-of-the-art components from Mundorf of Germany."
Cheers,
David.
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Wow, that is quite a list of goodies and fully lustworthy to a happy S5 owner like me.
Thanks, Bodhi.
Given the dimensions of the improved tweeter (1 inch) and midrange (6 inch), it looks like upgrades to the existing Q and S series models that share the same sized drivers may be a possibility.
Of course, it would be easier to do so for the S series with their externally affixed drivers than for the Q series (which may have to be factory installed - shipping costs would be a killer for non-US owners).
Given the dimensions of the improved tweeter (1 inch) and midrange (6 inch), it looks like upgrades to the existing Q and S series models that share the same sized drivers may be a possibility.
Of course, it would be easier to do so for the S series with their externally affixed drivers than for the Q series (which may have to be factory installed - shipping costs would be a killer for non-US owners).