Magico S5 mk2

Quick update: the Magico S5 mk2's now have close to 300 hours on them. I've been playing them at least 14 hours a day for two weeks and they've only improved. The change in the bass has been dramatic. They are sounding awesome.


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Vitus + Magico is the perfect combination. By far the best I've heard (and I've heard quite a few).

I have recently heard the S5 mk 2 with Vitus SM-102 monos at Rhapsony in NY, and the combo sounded simply stunning.

I have also tried the smaller SM-011 monos with my old S5mk1 and that was a killer combo as well. Even better than my MSB M202 monos, which is another amp showing great synergy with Magicos.
 
Adam - what finish did you get?

I have to be honest, my M-Coat Black S5 mk2's is the nicest black finish I've had on a speaker - ever. It's perfect.


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Same as I had before - Bronze M-Cast. The S1s I have at home right now are finished in the Black M-cast, which is also nice, but I think the Bronze is the nicest of the lot.
 
Elberoth said:
Same as I had before - Bronze M-Cast. The S1s I have at home right now are finished in the Black M-cast, which is also nice, but I think the Bronze is the nicest of the lot.
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For M Cast, I agree. Bronze is very nice, the black is too though.
 
Elberoth said:
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Vitus + Magico is the perfect combination. By far the best I've heard (and I've heard quite a few).

I have recently heard the S5 mk 2 with Vitus SM-102 monos at Rhapsony in NY, and the combo sounded simply stunning.

I have also tried the smaller SM-011 monos with my old S5mk1 and that was a killer combo as well. Even better than my MSB M202 monos, which is another amp showing great synergy with Magicos.
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Hey Adam:)

I didn't even turn my system on, it was that pink "kool-aid" that I gave you as you entered the studio:) Seriously enjoyed your visit muchly, and look forward to seeing you at least in Munich, if not at YOUR show in Warsaw.
 
Bob,

Thanks a lot for your hospitality ! You have a killer sounding system in your studio.
 
Spent a couple of hour auditioning a pair of S5 MKII's today a the local dealer. The speakers were being driven my Nagra mono-blocks and their latest HD DAC. All in all a very nice combination. Not being able to hear them in the same room I would definitely give them the edge over "similarly" priced SF Futura's and the price bracketing pair of Wilson Sasha II's and Alexia's. I still prefer the MBL 111F's to any that I have mentioned.

We did compare the Nagra DAC to the MSB and I preferred the Nagra unit.
 
I haven't heard the S5 MkII yet but I did a long audition of the S7 and preferred it to the Alexia by a substantial margin.

Ken
 
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Spent a couple of hour auditioning a pair of S5 MKII's today a the local dealer. The speakers were being driven my Nagra mono-blocks and their latest HD DAC. All in all a very nice combination. Not being able to hear them in the same room I would definitely give them the edge over "similarly" priced SF Futura's and the price bracketing pair of Wilson Sasha II's and Alexia's. I still prefer the MBL 111F's to any that I have mentioned.
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Even the S3 is better than the Alexia…
Have a look at the latest Stereo (Germany), the S3 has the lowest distortion figures I have everseen out of their measurements (Below what they can measure...). Look at how much smother both the frq response,on and off axis, and the impulse looks (Why are the Alexia tweeter is out of phase?). And that is the Mk1, I wonder what the Mk2 will do… The Alexia is more efficient, but it has 2X10", the S3 has only 2X8"

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I don't feel you can tell the difference between these speakers technically from what you are looking at. A full suite would be necessary, and even then, only a guide. Also, Wilson's moving cabinet components won't be picked up by them, so it's probably more useful from the listening position rather than near-field.

What I have found empirically/recently is that Wilson's soft domes are a bit subdued for my taste - although adjustable by resistor, too, as JA did in his Alexia review. And the pair of S5s I demo'd seemed to highlight the treble, go figure.
 
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I don't feel you can tell the difference between these speakers technically from what you are looking at. A full suite would be necessary, and even then, only a guide. Also, Wilson's moving cabinet components won't be picked up by them, so it's probably more useful from the listening position rather than near-field.

What I have found empirically/recently is that Wilson's soft domes are a bit subdued for my taste - although adjustable by resistor, too, as JA did in his Alexia review. And the pair of S5s I demo'd seemed to highlight the treble, go figure.
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I think you can tell rather a lot, you basically have just about anything you need to make a decent judgment; frq (on and off axis), impedance, impulse and distortion (unless you want to dispute facts like 0.3>0.1, or the meaning of a tweeter wired out of phase in a speaker that claims time alignment possibilities ;)).
 
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I think you can tell rather a lot, you basically have just about anything you need to make a decent judgment; frq (on and off axis), impedance, impulse and distortion (unless you want to dispute facts like 0.3>0.1, or the meaning of a tweeter wired out of phase in a speaker that claims time alignment possibilities ;)).
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The midrange is out of phase, so you might want to refrain from that. And magico is neither time nor phase coherent, either.

but what's your point? If you buy speakers by graph, good luck to you. People did the same with Halcro amps back in the day and look where it got them.
 
KeithR said:
The midrange is out of phase, so you might want to refrain from that. And magico is neither time nor phase coherent, either.

but what's your point? If you buy speakers by graph, good luck to you. People did the same with Halcro amps back in the day and look where it got them.
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Looks to me like it is the tweeter that is out of phase, isn't that the first highest pulse (not that it matter if it is the midrange, neither topologies will qualify for time coherency). True Magico is neither time nor phase coherent but I don't think they use these notions as a major selling point.
I don't pretend to tell anyone why he should, or should not, buy a product based on whatever one fancy, all I am saying is that objectively, the S3 are overall better. Subjectively it happens that I also think they sound better, it is possible to measure good and, god forbid, sound good as well...
 
LVB said:
Even the S3 is better than the Alexia…
Have a look at the latest Stereo (Germany), the S3 has the lowest distortion figures I have everseen out of their measurements (Below what they can measure...). Look at how much smother both the frq response,on and off axis, and the impulse looks (Why are the Alexia tweeter is out of phase?). And that is the Mk1, I wonder what the Mk2 will do… The Alexia is more efficient, but it has 2X10", the S3 has only 2X8"

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Actually, I believe, the Alexia has just one 10" woofer, and and one 8" mounted above.

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