Magico S5 mk2

Elberoth said:
As far as I understand the whole nanotubes / graphene technology, the nanotubes - and now the graphene - are used as an additive to the resin that holds carbon fibre together (carbon fibre by itself is a soft fabric; to make it stiff you need to soak it in resin; adding nanotubes powder changes the mechanical properties of the resin). As the woofers' diaphragms are made from aluminium, it is not possible to coat them. The only part of the woofer where graphene could be applied, is the dust cap, which is made from carbon fibre.
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Thank you for the explanation, Elberoth. This was really helpful. It was indeed unclear to me how graphene could be used with the aluminum woofers.


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Mike said:
Thanks for the explanation Adam, I was wondering about that.
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I mention that in my piece. Alon actually has a small sample of the carbon fiber resin, graphene mockup on his desk. But I'm not so sure only applied to dust cap.
 
Myles B. Astor said:
I mention that in my piece. Alon actually has a small sample of the carbon fiber resin, graphene mockup on his desk. But I'm not so sure only applied to dust cap.
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I asked the gentleman who was showing me around the factory about any graphene in the bass driver. He did say it was only used in the dust caps.
 
Just to clarify matters.

The tweeter and midrange in the S7 will be used in the S1 Mk II and S5 Mk II. The midrange cone material (graphene) is as described in the press release.

The woofer (x2) in the S5 Mk II are identical to the S7 woofer (aluminum cones with graphene dust caps).

The base plate and top caps are also new designs and much different compared to the original S1 and S5.

Me thinks that's pretty amazing trickle down technology and those speakers should be amazing.
 
Myles B. Astor said:
Just to clarify matters.

The tweeter and midrange in the S7 will be used in the S1 Mk II and S5 Mk II. The midrange cone material (graphene) is as described in the press release.

The woofer (x2) in the S5 Mk II are identical to the S7 woofer (aluminum cones with graphene dust caps).

The base plate and top caps are also new designs and much different compared to the original S1 and S5.

Me thinks that's pretty amazing trickle down technology and those speakers should be amazing.
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Would be difficult to summarize that better. Can't wait to hear the S5 mk2.


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I only wish Magico introduced the S2 model: using the same box as the S1, only with two 7-inch midwoofers (Magico V2 arrangement) instead of just one. That would be a bestseller, if priced right.
 
Elberoth said:
I only wish Magico introduced the S2 model: using the same box as the S1, only with two 7-inch midwoofers (Magico V2 arrangement) instead of just one. That would be a bestseller, if priced right.
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+1. To me a more rational line up would be S1, S2, S5, S7.



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S2, S4, S6, S8. Who do we appreciate? Magico, Magico, goooooooooooo Magicooooooooo :D
 
Notice how Magico is keeping the S5 and S7 tweeter at the same height. It would be nice if Alon did an S5v1/S5v2 comparison like he did with the S5/S7. In that situation, the S7 was clearly better, but, at twice the price of an S5, I didn't feel it was twice as good. However, after adding in appearance, I could almost mentally rationalize it. The problem I experienced with that demo is that later at home, under optimum conditions (late at night, amps on for 48 hours) I would get the feeling I was at Magico listening to the S7. Lol

Anyway, I will be looking forward to reading people's impression of the S5v2.
 
bthomas9 said:
Is that a hint Joe??


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You know, it could be. I want to be like Myles :)

I know he loves his setup and friends who've heard it agree. He graciously invited me over to hear his setup and I think before I pull any big triggers, I'd like to take him up on his offer. I'd like to experience the combo for myself.

:D
 
Joe,

The Strads and the S5 couldn't be more different sounding in my opinion. They are at opposite ends of the audio spectrum. I would think you would like Sonus Faber Lilium or Il Cremonese a lot more if you wanted to go for something newer.

Best,
Ken
 
Hi Ken,

That's exactly why I'd consider them.

My Strads are going NOWHERE!

It might be fun to have a ying/yang thing going on. I know it seems like I'm all over the map, but eventually everything will sort out in my head.

:audiophile:

I'd love to hear the other 2 Sonus Fabers you mention but I love my Strads too much to cheat on them. :)


Alpinist said:
Joe,

The Strads and the S5 couldn't be more different sounding in my opinion. They are at opposite ends of the audio spectrum. I would think you would like Sonus Faber Lilium or Il Cremonese a lot more if you wanted to go for something newer.

Best,
Ken
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joeinid said:
Hi Ken,

That's exactly why I'd consider them.

My Strads are going NOWHERE!

It might be fun to have a ying/yang thing going on. I know it seems like I'm all over the map, but eventually everything will sort out in my head.

:audiophile:

I'd love to hear the other 2 Sonus Fabers you mention but I love my Strads too much to cheat on them. :)
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Joe,

Ok, I understand now, two independent systems with very different sonic signatures. I'll be interested to hear if you like the sonics of the S5 MKII once you've auditioned them. I guess what I was getting at is if you love the sound of your Strads, the presentation of the S5 MKII may not be your cup of tea. When I did a head-to-head comparison of the Raidho D3 V2 and the Magico S5, I loved the presentation of the D3 V2 but the S5 wasn't my cup of tea. I'm sure others that have done the same comparison that loved the S5's would say the exact same thing about the D3 V2.

Best,
Ken
 
On their own, I'd confess I'm not a huge Magico fan. With the right gear, I know I could love them. I had a demo of the S1 and S5 with Viva amps and Constellation preamp. I have to say it was pretty amazing. So hearing CJ gear on the new kids could be pretty special.

If I had only one system with vinyl and nothing else, it would be Raidho at number one. I heard my friend Bruce's Raidho D3 and the system was 'make me cry' good. OMG, so smooth and sweet with wall to wall and top to bottom huge soundstage with front to back depth to die for. It's like I could pick out voices and instruments. Amazing. Add digital to the Raidho and I get a slight bite that I am not crazy about. Granted this was before Lampizator DSD with that special tube combo, so I'd have to revisit that setup.
 
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