M3's arrival

Gee, would anyone expect a dealer to report anything other than positive comments about a product they sell?
 
Maybe they sell them BECAUSE they are that good. Dealers I know, pick gear that they love, then sell what they love.

jap said:
Gee, would anyone expect a dealer to report anything other than positive comments about a product they sell?
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Rhapsody said:
Dumbing the M3's down to one word - "RESOLUTION" and everything that goes along with that.

The good part is that even if you flip to the S1IIs you could be totally satisfied with the provided sound, same for the S5II and S7....all great sounding speakers that allow you to get sucked in to the music. Lot's of great speakers out there that's for sure. For me it's the "golden age" of speakers. Munich blew my mind- not that all of the speakers sounded great at Munich (some did, some didn't), BUT you could tell that if you got a whole lot of them into an environment of your liking you could really have some "audio fun".

Anyway the M3's are quite something, right out of the box. Definitely not any issues, in my room anyway, just plug and play is how it went for me. Although I placed the M3's right where the S5IIs were sitting and I had found that location to be ideal for the S5II, it just happened to work for the M3's as well.....it's noticeable that they just sound right and have soul, more "soul" than any Magico that I've experienced.
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Bob - have you noticed any efficiency gains? The M3's are nicely rated.


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jap said:
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Point well taken, I invite you if ever in NYC to come in for a listen. If they were not special sounding I would just not have said anything. They are special and not just to me....you shall see. Not saying that 100 other top tier speakers aren't just as good in their own right, they are and I love lot's of speakers that I don't represent, - Avantgarde, Rockport, Living Voice, Viva, most good horn systems. I like efficiency. This is more about what Magico has done. Sorry it irk'd you, I find it interesting and thought I would share my experience.
 
Mike said:
Bob - have you noticed any efficiency gains? The M3's are nicely rated.


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Boy Mike, I can't believe that you asked that question. I don't want to go on and on about this but now what I see is that being 91db efficient and I believe a reasonably easy load (it just feels that way), is having a DRASTIC effect on EVERYTHING.

It could have to do with the Vitus 100Watt monos that I am driving the M3s with. I have been listening to the S5II's, which are 88db. Give the Vitus amps another 3db to play with, which going to the M3's does, is a game changer.

I would like to hear the MPS201 on any of the S series. It might do what the SM102's are doing on the M3's??? Inquiring minds would like to know.

Although I know that if you put even more power on the S5IIs they are not going to do some of the things that are going on with the SM102's/M3 combo.

It's like with Avantgardes, I lived with Trios and 4 Basshorns for 8 years. The efficiency of the Trios (115db) would allow low wattage amps to sound crazy good.

It seems like the gain in efficiency of the M3's is allowing the monos to "breathe", they seem like they doubled their power. I can't really even describe the sound at this point and it will be changing significantly over the next few weeks, although that's hard for to imagine, but I know for certain that it will.

The efficiency is key and it sort of says to me that if the amps aren't allowed to relax and give their best they might be diminishing or embellishing certain frequencies, where as what I am experiencing is a very strong presence of every frequency being played. BIG, 3D holographic soundstange, overtaking the entire room, not just the soundstage between and to the sides of the speakers- entire room encompassing.

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I was hoping you would say that! I knew when I looked at the specs of the M3's, we were going to be in for a dynamic, musical treat!

My Vitus and VAC amps will be smiling!


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Mike said:
I was hoping you would say that! I knew when I looked at the specs of the M3's, we were going to be in for a dynamic, musical treat!

My Vitus and VAC amps will be smiling!


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Yes. I think any good amp with good power and given that the efficiency is "so nice" will be able to deliver great enjoyment. I couldn't believe what I was hearing tonight and you hit the nail on the head.....what about the efficiency? I think it will become a significant topic of conversation in the future.

It's not just efficiency, it's efficiency with Magico and not having to go to the Q7II (93db) at it's cost. There are lot's of other GREAT efficient speakers out there, this is just a Magico specific conversation....although saying that, it really does apply to all amp/speaker combinations....duh:einstein:
 
Mike said:
I was hoping you would say that! I knew when I looked at the specs of the M3's, we were going to be in for a dynamic, musical treat!

My Vitus and VAC amps will be smiling!


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Mike,

I think you're going to see more folks driving the M3 with tube gear like VAC or CAT due to their increased efficiency and the warmth/dimension provided by tubes.

Ken
 
Rhapsody said:
Point well taken, I invite you if ever in NYC to come in for a listen. If they were not special sounding I would just not have said anything. They are special and not just to me....you shall see. Not saying that 100 other top tier speakers aren't just as good in their own right, they are and I love lot's of speakers that I don't represent, - Avantgarde, Rockport, Living Voice, Viva, most good horn systems. I like efficiency. This is more about what Magico has done. Sorry it irk'd you, I find it interesting and thought I would share my experience.
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Thank you for the invite, but the last place on the planet I plan to visit is NYC.

Good luck with your business.
 
Stunning speakers.
Do you think the carbon fibre is what makes gives them a "soul" compard to the aluminium body Magico speakers?
I think Wilson Benesch is right. The future is carbon!
 
From the pic, M3s seem to be very similar in size as S5mk2s. Is it so?
 
Rhapsody said:
After the initial two hours of listening, right now listening to Miles Davis/In a Silent Way, I am observing-

- Richer, more full bodied sound than any of the Ss.

-Same soundstage as the Ss -dimensional/3D holographic

-Definitely more resolution than Ss

-Tweeter seems a bit more prominent than Ss, in a very good way....the Tweeters are sublime.

-Midrange is warm/full bodied with gobs of resolution

-In my size room (700 sq. ft) I would never need a larger M model to pressurize the room. They pressurize the room every bit as well as the S7s...maybe more.

It's strange they sound as if they are fully broken in. Will be interesting to hear them in a few weeks.....or even tomorrow.
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Wow, I already want them !

Any takers for my S5 mk 2 ? LoL
 
jap said:
Gee, would anyone expect a dealer to report anything other than positive comments about a product they sell?
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If you met Rob, you would know he is as passionate about all things audio, as we all here are. And I can't say that about many dealers.

Pay him a visit while in NY - he has a great sounding room. The S5 mk 2 sounded as good as he said in his studio, I bet the M3 also do.
 
Alpinist said:
Mike,

I think you're going to see more folks driving the M3 with tube gear like VAC or CAT due to their increased efficiency and the warmth/dimension provided by tubes.

Ken
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You might change your mind when/if you hear them on the Vitus gear:cool: Although you are right Ken, the M3's are going to be very receptive to tubes.
 
Elberoth said:
If you met Rob, you would know he is as passionate about all things audio, as we all here are. And I can't say that about many dealers.

Pay him a visit while in NY - he has a great sounding room. The S5 mk 2 sounded as good as he said in his studio, I bet the M3 also do.
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Hey Adam....thx...and actually once you "get a load" of the M3's unfortunately, as GREAT as the S5II's are (and they are) I predict that you will be on the journey as well.
 
bobwah said:
Stunning speakers.
Do you think the carbon fibre is what makes gives them a "soul" compard to the aluminium body Magico speakers?
I think Wilson Benesch is right. The future is carbon!
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Bobwah, It could be but I think the largest contributor is the 91db efficiency.

KZHtoo, They actually look a little smaller than the S5II's- from the front anyway. From the side they look about the same as the S5II- they are VERY WELL proportioned....they just look and sound right.
 
The M3 would probably also be a better fit from the size/visual point of view for my 14x19 room.

The price tho ...
 
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