Incoming: Magico S3 mk2

Kuoppis

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At Munich High End I had the pleasure in an early morning meeting to talk to Yair Tammam and discuss at length the S3 mk2 and the changes compared to the mk1 version. As it was pretty convincing and I very much liked what I heard, I pulled the trigger on S3 mk2s order today. Hence, there is a little speaker upgrade is in the works.

You may have noticed in the past, I was not in favor of the S3 replacement cycle. And so, I also looked at other things, e.g. horns. But that would have required a switch to tubes and basically re-working my entire set. Alas, I do like my set and I'm not done with transistor amps yet. And I do enjoy the ease of use.

While S3 mk1 is an excellent speaker, based on the demos I have heard, there are three quite significant improvements in the mk2 version: treble, bass, coherence.

TREBLE: Diamond coated berylliums make the highs naturally smooth, no sign of beryllium bite. Very refined and smooth presentation, yet with the 50 kHz resolution. The difference to the mk1 version is immediately audible. Technology borrowed from the M Project - it's easy to achieve standing on the shoulders of giants.

BASS: In 2015 Meghan Trainor sang "It's all about the bass", pretty much applies here. While the change in the highs is significant, the change in the bass is bigger.

Also testament to the M Project aluminum cones were replaced by a bit larger carbon nano-graphene woofers. These bring a texture to Magico bass that was not there before. Deep, detailed, organic. More musical w/o being boomy or losing definition. Simply excellent.

Now the big brothers need to play catch-up: S3 mk2 is again the S-line technology lead, just as the mk1 was.

COHERENCE: In addition to the sub-area improvements, the S3 mk2 offers a new level of coherence, in particular better integrating the highs into the fold.

Further, in the MIDS I not notice a huge difference per se (as the mk1's already had the sub enclosure), except a very nice coherence across the range. So no bass, mids, highs - just music.

Overall, yes it is again an investment into a better musical experience. Just IMHO, a worthwhile one.
 
Until the new M series, I always thought the S3s were Magico's best speaker, so I'm sure the Mk2s will be even better.
 
:yahoo1: Congrats!! :celebrate008_2:

What color?

I've had two black ones, now I went with the bronze.

Was too cheap to go with the glossy titanium grey, which I would also have liked [emoji1].


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Although I never owned S3s, I heard them on a number of occasions at my dealer's. I liked them but had reservations r.e. their bass and treble, well described in Kuoppis' note. So when the S5 Mk II was announced, I decided to wait on the S3 Mk II. Good decision. I've had the S3 Mk IIs (bronze) now for a couple of months, and I think the improvements described by Kuoppis are what I'm experiencing. Wonderful speakers. You will love them!!
 
Until the new M series, I always thought the S3s were Magico's best speaker, so I'm sure the Mk2s will be even better.

You nailed it. For sure the M series is better, but with the S3 mk2 I will get many of the M Pro goodies for almost a regular person price [emoji3].


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Although I never owned S3s, I heard them on a number of occasions at my dealer's. I liked them but had reservations r.e. their bass and treble, well described in Kuoppis' note. So when the S5 Mk II was announced, I decided to wait on the S3 Mk II. Good decision. I've had the S3 Mk IIs (bronze) now for a couple of months, and I think the improvements described by Kuoppis are what I'm experiencing. Wonderful speakers. You will love them!!

Wise decision to wait for the S3 mk2: you get the smoother tweeter, better coherence and time alignment, as well the significantly improved bass through the new graphene woofers.

And I bet you are right that I will thoroughly enjoy them. The nice side of audiophilia, feel a bit excited :blush:.

Btw, nice color [emoji3].

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Congratulations on a terrific pair of cutting edge loudspeakers! With the dual 9 inch Nanographene woofers accompanying the six inch Nanographene midrange, I am wondering if the S3 Mk II's performance now surpasses the S5 Mk II's performance.

Enjoy,
Ken
 
Congratulations on a terrific pair of cutting edge loudspeakers! With the dual 9 inch Nanographene woofers accompanying the six inch Nanographene midrange, I am wondering if the S3 Mk II's performance surpasses the S5 Mk II's performance.

Enjoy,
Ken

Thank you Ken, exactly my thinking.


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Congrats, Kuoppis! I've been wondering when you'd pull the trigger. Just when I thought I'd wait a little longer..
 
Congrats, Kuoppis! I've been wondering when you'd pull the trigger. Just when I thought I'd wait a little longer..

Yes, just as indicated in my PM after high end, I think it is more than an upgrade.

It is the entry into the world of M Pro technology.

You're an S3 owner, you'll absolutely love it.


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Congratulations on a terrific pair of cutting edge loudspeakers! With the dual 9 inch Nanographene woofers accompanying the six inch Nanographene midrange, I am wondering if the S3 Mk II's performance now surpasses the S5 Mk II's performance.

Enjoy,
Ken

Having owned S5 mk 1 and S5 mk 2 and having heard the S3 mk 1 and S3 mk 2 on a few ocasions now, I'm affraid the answer is ... no.

The S5 mk 2 is much more capable in terms of dynamics, goes deeper and sounds more efortless too. It also sounds a bit purer in the mids and HF, which I derectly atribute to more substantial box (the S5's speaker front baffle is twice as thick vs that of the S3, which translates to a more stable, quiter platform to attach the drivers to).

That said, the S3 mk 2 is still terrific speaker at a much more affordable price point. It may be a better fit into a small rooms. IMO it has everything to become their best selling model.
 
Well, the S5 mk2 is the larger speaker, definitely goes louder and the woofers move more air. But it would overpower my room. We also discussed that with Yair.

Otherwise, same midrange and tweeter, way better woofers in the S3 mk2. I think the keyword here is coherence. Up to anyone to make up their own mind. Personally, I found the mk1 version to be the better speaker vs. its larger brethren and think it is the case again with the mk2.

And again, it is the S-series technology lead [emoji3].


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