Honda Pilot VS VW Atlas

[audio.bill]

I haven't driven the Palisade but was quite impressed with the interior design, comfort and spaciousness after sitting in it... seems like an incredible value! The HD rear facing cameras displayed in the instrument panel when making a lane change are amazing, now also offered in the all new 2020 Sonata.

 

[rbbert]

Over the Hyundai equivalent?

Not necessarily, I think personal preferences should factor heavily into that decision. The build quality and likely longevity are probably equivalent; I think the Kia's exterior and interior appearance is more stylish, but that's a matter of preference and taste.

The local dealer for each is another important factor.

 

[Shadowfax]

Not necessarily, I think personal preferences should factor heavily into that decision. The build quality and likely longevity are probably equivalent; I think the Kia's exterior and interior appearance is more stylish, but that's a matter of preference and taste.

The local dealer for each is another important factor.

Since KIA and Hyundai are the same owners and share other stuff, it was described to me that the KIA is marketed to the younger crowd, lots of Black on Black, sporty, while the equivalent Hyundai is marketed for the Family Guy.

 

[Paul]

on the contrary, I’m sure 95% of new vehicles will go 10 years / 200k miles on the original engine and drivetrain, and very likely twice that. Don’t be put off by the fact that the other 5% is what you hear about.

ask a dealer service department (or even a specialty independent repair shop) what their experience is. There is a reason that they keep adding items onto the “routine” maintenance; they’d be broke if all they did was fix problems.

Well, look around your friends and family members who owned more than 10 yrs plus or 200k miles. I’m sure that would be less than 5 %. Now when you bring the car for the service they don’t open the hood anymore instead they hook up their laptop to diagnose it. In my opinion with all the computer stuff they put it on automobiles are just shorten their life span. The reason I said “ those days are gone “ statements. Well again it’s just my opinion.


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[CGabriel]

I have test driven both Pilot and the VW. Of the two, personally, I prefer the VW. It has much higher quality materials on the interior. It feels like a more expensive vehicle. The Pilot is flimsy and plasticity inside. The VW seats are more comfortable. The Lexus is nice and bit pricey. If you want something that ticks all the boxes, go test drive one of these. Subaru Ascent.

 

[rbbert]

Well, look around your friends and family members who owned more than 10 yrs plus or 200k miles. I’m sure that would be less than 5 %. Now when you bring the car for the service they don’t open the hood anymore instead they hook up their laptop to diagnose it. In my opinion with all the computer stuff they put it on automobiles are just shorten their life span. The reason I said “ those days are gone “ statements. Well again it’s just my opinion.


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Your opinion doesn’t agree with the actual facts, which show that right now the average age of cars on the road is 12 years. That’s for cars (including SUV’s and pickups) built up to 20 years ago. So of course no one knows for sure how long current cars will last, but data from JD Power and Consumers Union indicate that at least up to 3-5 years out, current vehicles are far more reliable and with fewer major problems than even 10 years ago. In fact today’s worst are on a par with the best from about 12-15 years ago.

And for all vehicles built since 1996 at least (if not even earlier), the first step any mechanic performs is hooking it up to the computer diagnostic, so I’m not sure what your point is there.

 

[Alpinist]

I have test driven both Pilot and the VW. Of the two, personally, I prefer the VW. It has much higher quality materials on the interior. It feels like a more expensive vehicle. The Pilot is flimsy and plasticity inside. The VW seats are more comfortable. The Lexus is nice and bit pricey. If you want something that ticks all the boxes, go test drive one of these. Subaru Ascent.

I guess it all depends what your priorities are. To me, the quality of the interior takes a distant second to the vehicle’s durability and longevity. My VW AWD wagon needed $10K in repairs when it hit 100,000 miles. Even the radiator needed to be replaced. Seriously? I would never purchase a VW again.

Incidentally, I was getting an oil change at the Honda dealership yesterday (281,000 miles without a major repair) and I sat in a Pilot for awhile. It seemed pretty comfortable to me and very spacious.

Ken

 

[rbbert]

I guess it all depends what your priorities are. To me, the quality of the interior takes a distant second to the vehicle’s durability and longevity. My VW AWD wagon needed $10K in repairs when it hit 100,000 miles. Even the radiator needed to be replaced. Seriously? I would never purchase a VW again.

Incidentally, I was getting an oil change at the Honda dealership yesterday (281,000 miles without a major repair) and I sat in a Pilot for awhile. It seemed pretty comfortable to me and very spacious.

Ken

It's interesting to me that while VW, Audi and Porsche are all under the same corporate umbrella, and share chassis, drivetrains and many parts, Porsche ranks as extremely high quality and reliable, Audi nearly as much so, and VW far down the list. And in the past few years, Honda has generally had higher quality and reliability ratings than Acura, the opposite for Lexus and Toyota.

 

[Alpinist]

It's interesting to me that while VW, Audi and Porsche are all under the same corporate umbrella, and share chassis, drivetrains and many parts, Porsche ranks as extremely high quality and reliable, Audi nearly as much so, and VW far down the list. And in the past few years, Honda has generally had higher quality and reliability ratings than Acura, the opposite for Lexus and Toyota.

Very true. I’ve owned an Audi AWD wagon for a number of years and the reliability has been excellent.

Ken

 

[Paul]

Your opinion doesn’t agree with the actual facts, which show that right now the average age of cars on the road is 12 years. That’s for cars (including SUV’s and pickups) built up to 20 years ago. So of course no one knows for sure how long current cars will last, but data from JD Power and Consumers Union indicate that at least up to 3-5 years out, current vehicles are far more reliable and with fewer major problems than even 10 years ago. In fact today’s worst are on a par with the best from about 12-15 years ago.

And for all vehicles built since 1996 at least (if not even earlier), the first step any mechanic performs is hooking it up to the computer diagnostic, so I’m not sure what your point is there.

I don’t know where you live and certainly not the case where I live [emoji846] I work for auto industry and I believe what I see. I do not see your point either. Well let’s agree to disagree. Happy new year


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[mep]

It's interesting to me that while VW, Audi and Porsche are all under the same corporate umbrella, and share chassis, drivetrains and many parts, Porsche ranks as extremely high quality and reliable, Audi nearly as much so, and VW far down the list. And in the past few years, Honda has generally had higher quality and reliability ratings than Acura, the opposite for Lexus and Toyota.

VW and Audi are renowned for having electrical issues. I have a 2006 Passat with the 3.6 engine and it still has under 40,000 miles. It’s been back to the dealer numerous times for replacement of switches that overheated as well as recalls.

 

[Big B]

all good to know Brian, thanks !

as for the question of the Caddy XT6, nothing but an overpriced Chevy. Cadillac is but a ship at sea without a rudder right now. As for an American product that is clearly superior to the XT6 at the moment, Lincoln Aviator.

I totally agree with the statement above. We couldn't wait to get rid of our caddy. I have been a caddy man most of my life but it is time to move on.

 

[rbbert]

I don’t know where you live and certainly not the case where I live [emoji846] I work for auto industry and I believe what I see. I do not see your point either. Well let’s agree to disagree. Happy new year

Why wouldn't you know where I live?? And what would that have to do with anything? And my point is simple; cars are lasting longer than ever (certainly dramatically longer than before computerized engine controls), and build quality is better than ever. Those are objective facts, supported by data from inside and outside the auto industry, not my opinion.

 

[Paul]

Why wouldn't you know where I live?? And what would that have to do with anything? And my point is simple; cars are lasting longer than ever (certainly dramatically longer than before computerized engine controls), and build quality is better than ever. Those are objective facts, supported by data from inside and outside the auto industry, not my opinion.

As I said let’s agree to disagree. I do not careless on your point. Simple. You believe what you believe and I believe what I see in everyday. JD powers ? They got much trust from me same as all audio magazines and data coz I only trust my ears. Happy New Year.


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[Mikado463]

Why wouldn't you know where I live?? And what would that have to do with anything? And my point is simple; cars are lasting longer than ever (certainly dramatically longer than before computerized engine controls), and build quality is better than ever. Those are objective facts, supported by data from inside and outside the auto industry, not my opinion.

Rob I hear 'ya, not sure if Paul has anything other than JD Power to lean on ? Regardless, with the rush to turbo 4's everywhere these days there does seem to be some concern. that's why for longevity , as I said earlier, make mine N/A. 40-50 years ago 100,000 miles was about it. Truth be told in the Northeast many a vehicle from back then had already rusted away, but with better metallurgical treating todays thinner sheetmetal cars actually last longer. A properly maintained gasoline engine today will last as long as many diesels. Precise metering of fuel combined with the wide acceptance of synthetic oil are two big reasons.

 

[MikeCh]

Why an SUV rather than a minivan if you just want to haul people in comfort? Minivans allow you to step into the vehicle and almost stand up depending on your height. Isn't that more comfortable than an SUV with three rows of seats that you need to weave between?

It's always been strange to me that people purchase SUVs purely to haul bodies in comfort and not use them for their intended purpose of getting off-road or using it as a utility vehicle to tow, haul home depot crap and be a little rougher with compared to a "nicer car".

Why not buy A Honda odyssey or Toyota sienna?

I'm being serious, not a smart ass.

Thanks.

 

[Mike]

Why an SUV rather than a minivan if you just want to haul people in comfort? Minivans allow you to step into the vehicle and almost stand up depending on your height. Isn't that more comfortable than an SUV with three rows of seats that you need to weave between?

It's always been strange to me that people purchase SUVs purely to haul bodies in comfort and not use them for their intended purpose of getting off-road or using it as a utility vehicle to tow, haul home depot crap and be a little rougher with compared to a "nicer car".

Why not buy A Honda odyssey or Toyota sienna?... they look just like the SUVs being discussed here.

I'm being serious, not a smart ass.

Thanks.

My wife hates them.


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[Mike]

We test drove the Honda Pilot, Kia Teluride and Hyundai Pallisade.

For us, the Hyundai was the clear winner in overall features, smooooooth ride and quiet. The Honda’s breaks were bad. The Kia was a close second to the Hyundai, but I didn’t like the weird dash.

We may wait and try the new Toyota Highlander - redesigned for 2020. But so far, the Hyundai was the winner.


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[Bones13]

If you are hauling people frequently, beware the smaller SUVs. As much as I love my Macan, and my wife’s GLK, I don’t like sitting in the back seat of either one.

 

[Mike]

Just little kids and scrony old grandparents.


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