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Good lord! I'm still challenged to get 5.1 in my FR HT, LOL!
Emotiva XMC-1 Surround Sound Processor | Short Video | Launch Date: Presumably February 14, 2014
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Good lord! I'm still challenged to get 5.1 in my FR HT, LOL!
NorthStar
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Many people still have a lot of issues setting their 2-channel hi-fi stereo rig and having the sound properly dialed in.
Never in this life would they have the courage to experiment, or even read about rigs and components doing more than two speakers @ a time!
...Michael Fremer is one of the exception; he has two main setups. ...The one downstairs for analog music with his turntable, and the one upstairs for digital multichannel surround sound movies, with his SSP or AV 'receiber'.
Right now, for the general public, you can set a home theater rig with eleven speakers and four subwoofers (11.4-channel setup).
Of course you can even add more, but 11.4 is what is offered as one of the top most separate channels (4 of them are not discrete though).
...I believe some high end SSPs can even do 16 channels (separate speakers), but internally processed, not encoded in anything existing (virtual recreation). ...Perhaps it's a 12.4-channel SSP with two front center channel speakers.
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* Imagine for a sec: For proper stereo sound (two channels only) you need to not only get your room treated/tuned accordingly by a professional acoustician, but also equalized it professionally. ...So, for even a 5.1 setup it needs much much more still. ...Then 7.2, 9.3, 11.4, 12.4, and 16.4 (with four ceiling, above head speakers - the true sky high height channel speakers).
Lexicon and Yamaha used to be the leaders in DSP surround sound.
Today they still are, and JBL Synthesis (Harman Kardon division), Trinnov, Dirac Live, Acourate, and Datasat (RS20i SSP).
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If you want to do high end stereo sound perhaps it is preferable to stick with a high end stereo preamp (analog).
Why put it inside a high end digital surround sound processor with video circuitry (the picture does go through HDMI connections)?
I guess some people, like Matt here, like to have everything top-notch in one single unit.
And if the XMC-1 can do it (stereo analog and 7.1-ch. digital equally good), and for only two grands ($1,200 for people who have that 40% discount card), then perhaps it's worth checking it out by giving Emotiva another chance!
But like Matt said; better wait another six months or so to find out about all the issues and see if you can survive with most of them. ...I just can't wait to read owner's reviews. ...Should be a lot of fun.
- BTW, yesterday Canada Men's Curling team won over USA team.
Go Canada Go!
Never in this life would they have the courage to experiment, or even read about rigs and components doing more than two speakers @ a time!
...Michael Fremer is one of the exception; he has two main setups. ...The one downstairs for analog music with his turntable, and the one upstairs for digital multichannel surround sound movies, with his SSP or AV 'receiber'.
Right now, for the general public, you can set a home theater rig with eleven speakers and four subwoofers (11.4-channel setup).
Of course you can even add more, but 11.4 is what is offered as one of the top most separate channels (4 of them are not discrete though).
...I believe some high end SSPs can even do 16 channels (separate speakers), but internally processed, not encoded in anything existing (virtual recreation). ...Perhaps it's a 12.4-channel SSP with two front center channel speakers.
__--__--__--__
* Imagine for a sec: For proper stereo sound (two channels only) you need to not only get your room treated/tuned accordingly by a professional acoustician, but also equalized it professionally. ...So, for even a 5.1 setup it needs much much more still. ...Then 7.2, 9.3, 11.4, 12.4, and 16.4 (with four ceiling, above head speakers - the true sky high height channel speakers).
Lexicon and Yamaha used to be the leaders in DSP surround sound.
Today they still are, and JBL Synthesis (Harman Kardon division), Trinnov, Dirac Live, Acourate, and Datasat (RS20i SSP).
__--__--__--__
If you want to do high end stereo sound perhaps it is preferable to stick with a high end stereo preamp (analog).
Why put it inside a high end digital surround sound processor with video circuitry (the picture does go through HDMI connections)?
I guess some people, like Matt here, like to have everything top-notch in one single unit.
And if the XMC-1 can do it (stereo analog and 7.1-ch. digital equally good), and for only two grands ($1,200 for people who have that 40% discount card), then perhaps it's worth checking it out by giving Emotiva another chance!
But like Matt said; better wait another six months or so to find out about all the issues and see if you can survive with most of them. ...I just can't wait to read owner's reviews. ...Should be a lot of fun.
- BTW, yesterday Canada Men's Curling team won over USA team.
Go Canada Go!
NorthStar
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That tells us they still are not ready yet! ...Not a good augur @ all!
How could some people still wait for a product after all these years, and when their previous two SSPs are still not fully and properly operational is simply one of the biggest illusion of the imagination!
And how many times did they blame their customers for the problems and bad implementations that they created themselves in the first place!?! ...Totally beats me up! ...And I'm not speaking only for myself here.
When I first joined the Lounge, and till the end, I believed in Emotiva's value (and even supported them).
Now I don't believe in the people behind them, in their disorganization.
It's been a long journey for me about Emotiva; it started back in 2004.
The most important thing for me in life is the quality of the people; their honesty and integrity and respect towards others.
If this is missing I don't care about their products, their jobs, their social class, their money, and their words.
The XMC-1, ...we'll see.
How could some people still wait for a product after all these years, and when their previous two SSPs are still not fully and properly operational is simply one of the biggest illusion of the imagination!
And how many times did they blame their customers for the problems and bad implementations that they created themselves in the first place!?! ...Totally beats me up! ...And I'm not speaking only for myself here.
When I first joined the Lounge, and till the end, I believed in Emotiva's value (and even supported them).
Now I don't believe in the people behind them, in their disorganization.
It's been a long journey for me about Emotiva; it started back in 2004.
The most important thing for me in life is the quality of the people; their honesty and integrity and respect towards others.
If this is missing I don't care about their products, their jobs, their social class, their money, and their words.
The XMC-1, ...we'll see.
That should be their new slogan for it! :roflmao:
Here we are over a month later....and still no official release date. Anyone heard anything?
I'm not holding my breath for April. Come to find out that the factory isn't even finished yet! My guess is is that they might start trickling out in May and it will be mid to late summer before we see full production.
Edit: I was going to post a link to the thread with Big Dan talking out the factory, but it seems that it has been deleted. :facepalm:
Edit: I was going to post a link to the thread with Big Dan talking out the factory, but it seems that it has been deleted. :facepalm:
Big B
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I put myself on the list for the XMC1. This is the reply I got back.
Thank you for your email. The first XMC-1 processors are expected to be shipping out very shortly. All the boards and parts are in house and our entire production staff is working on building XMC-1 processors. Our first priority will be contacting everyone that signed up for the reservation list. We will be contacting customers in the order that the reservation was received. Unfortunately we are not able to guarantee a specific date when the XMC-1 will be available for you to purchase. The XMC-1 is the first product out of our all new production facility here in Franklin, TN. We are taking extreme care with the first units off of the line and verifying performance and quality every step of the way. As soon as we do reach your name on the reservation list we will contact you with information on how to place a purchase. If you have any further questions please let us know. Thank you for your support.
Nick Kaumeyer
Department Head of Sales
Emotiva Audio Corporation
Thank you for your email. The first XMC-1 processors are expected to be shipping out very shortly. All the boards and parts are in house and our entire production staff is working on building XMC-1 processors. Our first priority will be contacting everyone that signed up for the reservation list. We will be contacting customers in the order that the reservation was received. Unfortunately we are not able to guarantee a specific date when the XMC-1 will be available for you to purchase. The XMC-1 is the first product out of our all new production facility here in Franklin, TN. We are taking extreme care with the first units off of the line and verifying performance and quality every step of the way. As soon as we do reach your name on the reservation list we will contact you with information on how to place a purchase. If you have any further questions please let us know. Thank you for your support.
Nick Kaumeyer
Department Head of Sales
Emotiva Audio Corporation
Big B
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no rush for me.
So today is the last day of April and as far as I know they still haven't shipped a single unit out. Their latest podcast from a few weeks ago still indicated that they would be shipping the first units this month with more next month and then full production in June. Time will tell.
RE: XMC-1. Just checked....still not out.
This is so funny and sad at the same time.
You should read their forum. People are like "well, that's it, I'll give it until June 30th and then I'm buying something else....no....no.....I mean it....uhhhh.....shucks......ok, I'll give it to Christmas."
Buy a Denon or Marantz for heavens sake!
How many movies have come out since this debacle began?
At the end of the day, I don't really care, but it sure is funny.
This is so funny and sad at the same time.
You should read their forum. People are like "well, that's it, I'll give it until June 30th and then I'm buying something else....no....no.....I mean it....uhhhh.....shucks......ok, I'll give it to Christmas."
Buy a Denon or Marantz for heavens sake!
How many movies have come out since this debacle began?
At the end of the day, I don't really care, but it sure is funny.