Emotiva XMC-1 Surround Sound Processor | Short Video | Launch Date: Presumably February 14, 2014

Mike said:
Oh I know that, but they said if people "signed up" they would be guaranteed that price. I guess the shysters are getting around it by calling it v2. Too funny. If I had waiting three years to get that price -
I would be pissed.
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It's not actually V2, it's gen 2 which refers to the styling. When they usually change something other than looks, they tend to give it the next number up- example: ERC-1, ERC-2, ERC-3 for their CD player line.

I do actually have a upgrade card, but I don't drink the koolaid. :) I own a XPA-5 and owned a ERC-1 and UMC-1. The ERC was a great piece of equipment (my friend now has it) and the UMC sounded great but just wasn't my cup of tea. FWIW, I never ran into any bugs with mine, but I have a pretty basic setup. Most of their stuff offers great bang for the buck value, but I agree with you that the roll out of the XMC has been anything but smooth or handled correctly.

They have a lot riding on the success of this piece of equipment. IMO, if they botch this, their reputation in the pre/pro market is going to be irreparably damaged.
 
Thanks for the clarification. You have to wonder why someone would risk $2k for Emotiva and their broken promises when you can get a Marantz, Denon or Yamaha, etc for a little more - with a bigger company behind the products and more features. At $999 - yeah, I get the risk. But at $2000 - now you're swimming with them big fish.
 
Before I make my decision, I'm going to wait at least 6 months after release so I can get a good idea if it's worth the money and what problems it has. It better be something special for me to plunk out $1,199 which is a huge amount of money to me. If it doesn't pan out, I'll sell my card and move on. I would not spend $2,000 for it, period.

The only reason why I'm interested in it over one of the aforementioned brands is the promise of it being well suited for both HT and 2 channel use. If it doesn't do that, I'll probably end up getting a 2 channel preamp and use some random AVR or pre/pro for my HT use. I would much rather have a decent all in one solution, though.
 
It's a long saga with Emotiva and their SSPs: UMC-1, UMC-200, and now the soon to be released XMC-1.

So many issues: HDMI handshaking, bass management not following the audio standards (Dolby, etc.), painful firmware updates, etc., etc., etc.

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I don't feel to talk about their amps, their CD players, their speakers, their subwoofers, etc., here in this thread.
SPPs ok, including the XMC-1 of course because that's the culmination point of this thread.

Matt, like I is a Lounge member (I was); and we both know a thing or two in regards to their various products, and some more too.
But I posted this in the Audio/Video - Home Theater and Video's forum section because it's a SSP used for people's Home theaters.
For watching Blu-ray movies with multichannel hi-res audio, and from Hybrid multichannel music SACDs.

The XMC-1 uses HDMI version 1.4b connections, and we'll see what else it can do when a true test will be performed by a real person (a customer without bias).

That's why I started this thread; to inform members about a new Emotiva SSP that has been talked about for more than seven years and still people are waiting to see the real life light of it!

I don't care that it doesn't have HDMI version 2.0 (for true Ultra HD), I don't care about Dirac Live, I just care about seeing one in real life after seven years!
All the talk so far is just that; bla bla bla.

And the UMC-1 was a total fiasco as far as I am personally concerned.
And the UMC-200, even with its parametric EQ is not without his faults as well.

All the reviews mean dickenos when steep inside you have some reliability and proper operation issues.
I am so tired of all these superficial reviewers of them certain audio/video mags and audio forums too!

I trust the real users; the owners. ...That's the smart way to have a broad and averaging and smart opinion.
Reviewers don't rate products on reliability because their job won't allow enough time for that.
And, they don't have the time either to check all the stuff and all the compatibility issues with several other products that are part of the chain.

Audio/video product reviews by audio journalists and reviewers are mostly crap; only very few ones can be relied upon, and never NEVER @ 100%!

Ok, back to the XMC-1 news, and hopefully we'll see one soon because February 14 has already passed and gone!
 
NorthStar said:
Ok, back to the XMC-1 news, and hopefully we'll see one soon because February 14 has already passed and gone!
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I figured that you had heard that it has been delayed once again. They aren't giving a firm date, because it always bites them in the.., but they said "soon". The latest delay is due to upgrading to HDMI 2.0 (1.4b). They have to be close since they appear to have the factory going here in the US.

Here is the link to what Dan said in his most recent update regarding the delay: Going Beyond Expectations... An Emotiva XMC-1 Update | The Emotiva Lounge

Why it the HDMI spec is 1.4b instead of 2.0: A word about HDMI 2.0 and the XMC-1... | The Emotiva Lounge
 
Well I read about 1.4b versus 2.0 but I missed the boat on the delay.

Methinks that it all stinks anyway!

Emotiva is very emotional indeed; some of them people from their organization (various parts), have inflicted collateral damage to their customers and readers. ...The XMC-1 is the biggest of them all!
 
Now, do I understand correctly that the XMC-1 v2 doesn't supply any Dolby processing? For me, the Dolby IIz and IIx on the Marantz 8801 is invaluable. The height and wide speakers add so much! I don't know of any Oppo like device that would supply that level of Dolby processing.
 
It does (written) the entire Dolby and dts panoply Mike. ...But I'm not sure about Wide and Height channels.
dts Neo:X -> I'm not sure about that either; I doubt it as the XMC-1 is only a 7.1-channel SSP.
{Dolby PLIIx is for Back surrounds.}

And their previous SSPs had a wrongful bass management implementation.

For people looking for more than 7.1 look elsewhere.

The XMC-1's main emphasis is on analog stereo quality, and Dirac Live room correction and EQ system..
 
That's a good question. The UMC-200 Supports both X and Z so I would think that this one should do the same? :skeptical:

Their product pages really leave a lot to be desired. Lots of fluff and no content.
 
Don't be surprised if the XMC-1 relies on source side decoding. If it did Dolby - you would think they would be talking about it. It's sounding more and more like a 7.1 channel preamp that does some room correction (by a product no one has ever heard of). I'm not saying it's bad, it just doesn't seem to have much info. :skeptical:


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Take a look at their new product page here. It says, "Supports all the latest high-definition surround standards from Dolby, DTS, and more at full HD resolution." And the very top picture shows the display DTS ES Matrix, FWIW.

Edit: I also found this picture of the OSD:

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Hey guys, while your researching SSP/receivers do a search for ATMOS. This will be the new format for the future. Some companies already have it on their receivers but haven't seen any separates with it yet. It will be up to 5/7.20 with most being 5.10 which would be a total of15 speakers. I think the idea is to just about cover your ceiling but the sound is supposed to be like 3d audio. There are about 150 blurays that are encoded with this format.
 
Mike said:
Bob - I don't see any reference to Dolby anything on the product page.
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They have too; Dolby TrueHD, and DD+ must be supported or they are different than anyone else.
And Dolby Volume is nice to have too. And some SSPs and AV receivers have Dolby Headphone.
And Dolby Pro Logic II Music audio mode is great for multichannel music, one of the favorites.
And myself I always use DD PLIIx superimposed over DTS-HD MA 5.1 for Movies. ...And with Audyssey MultEQ XT32 of course.

Without Dolby you simply aren't alive today! . ..Emotiva has a reputation to not have their own website and specs in order; it has always been like that for most of their products and most of the time, nothing new here.
 
Matt715 said:
Take a look at their new product page here. It says, "Supports all the latest high-definition surround standards from Dolby, DTS, and more at full HD resolution." And the very top picture shows the display DTS ES Matrix, FWIW.

Edit: I also found this picture of the OSD:

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DD PLx Game; it says at top. ...So of course they support Dolby, they have too, like I said above.
 
Design Audio Video said:
Hey guys, while your researching SSP/receivers do a search for ATMOS. This will be the new format for the future. Some companies already have it on their receivers but haven't seen any separates with it yet. It will be up to 5/7.20 with most being 5.10 which would be a total of15 speakers. I think the idea is to just about cover your ceiling but the sound is supposed to be like 3d audio. There are about 150 blurays that are encoded with this format.
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I think that we're still quite away from Dolby ATMOS; it is mainly for Theaters, not for audio products.
- Dolby Atmos is in no receivers that I'm aware off; that'll be the day! ...Dream on.
And I've never heard of any Blu-ray encoded with Dolby Atmos.
I invite you to find any link saying the contrary, and share them with us, good luck.

* Dolby has a new audio resolution though, a premiere for Blu-ray encoding; it's called Dolby TrueHD Advanced, for 96kHz Upsampling multichannel audio soundtracks with movies!

http://www.soundandvision.com/content/right-stuff-and-dolby-truehd-advanced-96khz

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Go Canada Go!
 
Matt715 said:
Take a look at their new product page here. It says, "Supports all the latest high-definition surround standards from Dolby, DTS, and more at full HD resolution." And the very top picture shows the display DTS ES Matrix, FWIW.

Edit: I also found this picture of the OSD:

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Thanks for the clarification Matt. That's good to hear.
 
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