No, we are talking about the most important issue: Your ears only, bias controlled evaluation. We are talking about doing this in a stack OF YOUR CHOOSING from the USB cable on back.
Do Ethernet cables Make a Difference
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No, we are talking about the most important issue: Your ears only, bias controlled evaluation. We are talking about doing this in a stack OF YOUR CHOOSING from the USB cable on back.
Out of curiosity why it is relevant to people hearing stuff that isn't there? Ethernet is Asynchronous, buffered, high bandwidth. My 10GBe connection can transfer a 16/44.1 track in literally 0.05 seconds. Tidal can load an entire track into their buffer in 6-7 seconds on my 100Mbps Internet connection.
In both instances I can pull the cable and the entire track plays. Did my sound get worse, get better, stay the same when the cable was pulled?
Also I've done this on AKG 701's so what would the room matter?
I could certainly do this in your own showroom.
Well, if your system isn’t of high enough resolution or more importantly, not properly setup, you probably won’t hear a difference. Headphones also aren’t the best for micro detail retrieval, depth of soundstage, etc., especially $400 ones.
If you don’t hear a difference, great, pocket the savings or invest somewhere else in your system. But those with highly resolving systems which are properly setup can hear a difference. I wish it was different, but it’s undeniable as to what I’ve heard, Jim and others.
As they say, YMMV.
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Here's what I'm saying. In your own showroom, once you are blinded to the fact of what Ethernet cable is in the system you can't proverbially snatch the $5000 out of my hand. Pick any ears you like.
I'll even make the cable I use on the spot.
So you won’t answer the question. That tells me all I need to know.
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Jim Smith
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Go get 'em, James!
That makes two of us so we are at least on equal footing.
Again, when the entire track is cached, like Tidal does for instance on Windows (and I think OS/X), what happens when the cable is pulled and the music still plays? Did it get better, worse, stay the same.
Amazing how each of us are refusing to answer the simplest of questions.
Here's another: Why does my setup matter? I'll do this in your own showroom. You should be super confident of $5000 but for some reason...
Talk is cheap.
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Ummm, so James, you are going to conduct the test?
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FWIW, this is my last post in this thread. I've let myself over-react, for which I apologize to one & all.
I'll take the high road with the 'James' thing. Ad hom attacks are the domain of people with no ability to effectively debate. So I won't be going there.
You can bring a friend and as long as they have the dexterity to swap out cabling from a switch I'll show them how to do it.
Mike - so AQ Diamond is a no brainer over the Vodka? Is it a small improvement or a ‘wow’ improvement? Think I saw a post from Jim saying wow.
Well, we had Jim’s vodka (and a Stock Cat6) and the difference between the diamond and vodka was bigger IMO than the Stock Cat6 and Vodka. I suspect the solid 100% Perfect Surface Silver and DBS is what we are hearing over the Vodka. More air, extension on top, micro detail retrieval, etc.
The stock Cat6 sounds flat by comparison.
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In my modest system, AQ Diamond significantly sounds better than Vodka and a few inexpensive Ethernet cables I have lying around. No blind testing needed, the difference is big enough.
Knowing digital is 0s and 1s and knowing synchronous from asynchronous do not mean you've mastered transmission line theories and this part of electrical engineering.
Knowing digital is 0s and 1s and knowing synchronous from asynchronous do not mean you've mastered transmission line theories and this part of electrical engineering.
I’m old enough to remember the “signal cables don’t matter”, “power cables don’t matter!, “power conditioning doesn’t matter!”, “USB cables don’t matter!” debates. As my friend Jock says, “it all matters.”
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