Do Ethernet cables Make a Difference

jinjuku said:
It's a simple question:

If I start playback over WiFi or Wired and I break the connection and music continues to play back (Tidal does this folks):

1. Is it magic?
2. Where's the music at?
3. Did the sound get better?
4. Did the sound get worse?
5. Did the sound stay the same?

Why can't anyone answer such basic questions?

I'll add another: Where's the jitter?
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Let me try to answer.

1. No magic
2. Music already transferred from source to player device.
3. No
4. No
5. Yes, same until it stops altogether.

PS. No idea about jitter
 
I auditioned AudioQuest Vodka and Cinnamon ethernet cables against my bog standard ones. Spent two hours listening to the same track and switching out each cable on a blind test basis. I picked the bog standard cable each time. I picked the more expensive vodka over the cinnamon more often than not but not every time. Went with the cinnamon to connect the jack to the router and the router to the NAS and the vodka to connect the router to the Lumin T1. Works a treat. Next step is to check out wklie’s suggestion of a FMC.
 
AJR said:
I auditioned AudioQuest Vodka and Cinnamon ethernet cables against my bog standard ones. Spent two hours listening to the same track and switching out each cable on a blind test basis. I picked the bog standard cable each time. I picked the more expensive vodka over the cinnamon more often than not but not every time. Went with the cinnamon to connect the jack to the router and the router to the NAS and the vodka to connect the router to the Lumin T1. Works a treat. Next step is to check out wklie’s suggestion of a FMC.
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I did the same and bought vodka not 100% convinced but just to relieve my mind[emoji3][emoji3][emoji3]
But if you wand mind bogling sq jump try upgrading the ps of modem-router- switch by order of priority or all in one.
I did the later and the jump is just outstanding and very distinguishable.
Even the pic in tv is so clear with better colors!
I bought ifi power supply for 50$ each only,
One guy tried sbooster wich the switch and said is even better!
Cheers


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CAT5e is way more than enough. I have some 13 year old CAT5E that I just put a 10GBe switch and NIC in play. From RAM disk I'm hitting 1280MB a second consistently. That's two CD's every second. I could transfer my entire collection in 21 minutes over 65 feet of cabling that was $0.30/Foot using RJE's that cost $0.055 cents per.
 
jinjuku said:
CAT5e is way more than enough. I have some 13 year old CAT5E that I just put a 10GBe switch and NIC in play. From RAM disk I'm hitting 1280MB a second consistently. That's two CD's every second. I could transfer my entire collection in 21 minutes over 65 feet of cabling that was $0.30/Foot using RJE's that cost $0.055 cents per.
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Totally agree. No need to go overboard for streaming music/CDs.

If you have needs other than streaming music, then that is a different story.
 
For audio purpose and its bit rate needed, Cat 5e is way more than necessary. I use cheap $15 BJC 6a - with different color cables, it makes it easier to identify and they are built to higher standard (but obviously not in the realm of audiophile ethernet cable :)). I power the switch with a LPS though.
 
Mike said:
Go the highest they have. I strongly suggest AQ Diamond. The difference is in the micro details.
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I’ll never forget the totally unexpected improvement from my AQ Vodka to your AQ Diamond when voicing the Magicos at your shop. Not subtle!!!


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Jim Smith said:
I’ll never forget the totally unexpected improvement from my AQ Vodka to your AQ Diamond when voicing the Magicos at your shop. Not subtle!!!


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Agreed!


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jinjuku said:
I found the difference is in the blindfold.
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The last thing on my mind was a difference in Ethernet cables. My Vodka cable was 2M, but I needed 3M to comfortably reach my DAC. Mike offered to loan me his Diamond for the session. The difference was so noticeable that I subsequently bought one for myself. No blindfolds needed - just an open mind.
 
Jim Smith said:
The last thing on my mind was a difference in Ethernet cables. My Vodka cable was 2M, but I needed 3M to comfortably reach my DAC. Mike offered to loan me his Diamond for the session. The difference was so noticeable that I subsequently bought one for myself. No blindfolds needed - just an open mind.
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...and open ears.
 
I've had the AQ Vodka, WW Starlight CAT8, Nordost Heimdall II.

I'll put my proverbial blindfold up against anyone's open ears/mind. Your $1000 to my $5000. I'll provide a server/switch/client computer. You provide everything from the USB cable on back. You system, your music.

2 rounds of 10 tracks each. Let me know which track had which cable. You hit 9/10 right you have $5000 in your pocket. Loser pays travel expenses.

You won't know what cable it in play however.
 
jinjuku said:
I've had the AQ Vodka, WW Starlight CAT8, Nordost Heimdall II.

I'll put my proverbial blindfold up against anyone's open ears/mind. Your $1000 to my $5000. I'll provide a server/switch/client computer. You provide everything from the USB cable on back. You system, your music.

2 rounds of 10 tracks each. Let me know which track had which cable. You hit 9/10 right you have $5000 in your pocket. Loser pays travel expenses.

You won't know what cable it in play however.
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I’m guessing the system set-up is substandard, hence your inability. Sorry, I won’t even think of such a comparison on a questionably set-up system without knowing more.

Please post some images of your set-up and we'll see. Listening area, system, side walls, room dimensions.


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Jim Smith said:
I’m guessing the system set-up is substandard, hence your inability. Sorry, I won’t even think of such a comparison on a questionably set-up system without knowing more.

Please post some images of your set-up and we'll see. Listening area, system, side walls, room dimensions.


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Nope, we do this in your stack from your USB cable on back.

The server/client machines will be a stripped down Linux Server with SMB for the file serving. Client computer will be a Windows 10 machine using J River. The client machine will be dual homed (a 2 port Intel server GBe NIC) setup in a LACP Dynamic LAG.

Here is my tutorial on setup of trunking on Switch to Switch (layer 2) but also applies to NIC teaming:

 
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