Devialet 200...my impressions.

Bobolaclune said:
And just to say - something's going on at Devialet . Their Facebook page is full of references to an "Upcoming Revolution" and this image ....any guesses?
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Looks like a headlamp. Maybe they'll be getting into making some of those sweet French cars. :)

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Bobolaclune said:
I wouldn't read too much into that . The track is an absolute torture test and the "defibrillation" on the cones is something I haven't experienced with my D1's on any other piece of music. Worse on the digital than the vinyl.

What I will say is that the Raidho's are real power hogs and even with the D400 , I'm driving them up to 3 or 4 o'clock on the dial, so this might be part of your issue with the D200's.

Shodhan
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Yes, the track is a killer! It's quite an impressive sounding death rattle from the speakers about a minute or slightly more in. I've heard this track on a friend's Sasha 2s so know just how low it goes. Quite right about needing more power too. The D200 is adequate power-wise but I'd be happy with a lot more.
Interesting D-1s are problematic with the track in addition to my C-1.1.
Regarding the track being better/worse with SAME enabled/disabled, I tried a few more times and it seems a little inconsistent, but it's definitely not any better with SAM enabled annoyingly.
 
Rufus McDufus said:
Yes, the track is a killer! It's quite an impressive sounding death rattle from the speakers about a minute or slightly more in. I've heard this track on a friend's Sasha 2s so know just how low it goes. Quite right about needing more power too. The D200 is adequate power-wise but I'd be happy with a lot more.
Interesting D-1s are problematic with the track in addition to my C-1.1.
Regarding the track being better/worse with SAME enabled/disabled, I tried a few more times and it seems a little inconsistent, but it's definitely not any better with SAM enabled annoyingly.
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Raidho speakers are not allrounders. I used to own the C1.1s and on some tracks they would just about fall apart. On anything with double bass, there was significant port noise contributing to the sound coming from the speakers. I could not bear to listen to something like ZZ top on them. On jazz, female vocals, instrumental and well recorded soft rock and pop, they sounded sublime. In the end, I sold them as I got frustrated since I could not listen to my entire music collection. Changing amplifiers did not significantly correct this issue & I really doubt if changing cables would do it either.
Just my experience.
Anshul
 
apdoc2004 said:
Raidho speakers are not allrounders. I used to own the C1.1s and on some tracks they would just about fall apart. On anything with double bass, there was significant port noise contributing to the sound coming from the speakers. I could not bear to listen to something like ZZ top on them. On jazz, female vocals, instrumental and well recorded soft rock and pop, they sounded sublime. In the end, I sold them as I got frustrated since I could not listen to my entire music collection. Changing amplifiers did not significantly correct this issue & I really doubt if changing cables would do it either.
Just my experience.
Anshul
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Anshul, that may have been your experience on the C1.1's , it is certainly not mine on the D1's . The other night I was spinning Moonlight Serenade by Ray Brown and Laurindo Almeida . Mondscheinsonate - Round about midnight, the first track on side A features a frighteningly deep low double bass note by Brown which was amazingly portrayed through the D1's . Rufus is talking about a very specific track , unique in my listening for causing a weird driver interaction, must be some kind of sympathetic resonance. I have not heard the same thing again on any other track.

And that , is my experience.

Shodhan
 
apdoc2004 said:
Raidho speakers are not allrounders. I used to own the C1.1s and on some tracks they would just about fall apart. On anything with double bass, there was significant port noise contributing to the sound coming from the speakers. I could not bear to listen to something like ZZ top on them. On jazz, female vocals, instrumental and well recorded soft rock and pop, they sounded sublime. In the end, I sold them as I got frustrated since I could not listen to my entire music collection. Changing amplifiers did not significantly correct this issue & I really doubt if changing cables would do it either.
Just my experience.
Anshul
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Sounds like a really poorly designed speaker ....
 
I heard the Devialet 400/400 and it was sublime , i also spoke to another who had the 200 and was disappointed , he said it's best to go straight to the 400/400 if your budget allowed, i can easily say the 400/400 does deliver the beans and is special in its own way ...
 
MDP said:
How is this comment helpful to anyone ???
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Based on what was described to the forum , that's my assessment and opinion, i was only responding to what was posted, basically along the same lines or is there something i missed..?


Regards..


apdoc2004 said:
Raidho speakers are not allrounders. I used to own the C1.1s and on some tracks they would just about fall apart. On anything with double bass, there was significant port noise contributing to the sound coming from the speakers. I could not bear to listen to something like ZZ top on them. On jazz, female vocals, instrumental and well recorded soft rock and pop, they sounded sublime. In the end, I sold them as I got frustrated since I could not listen to my entire music collection. Changing amplifiers did not significantly correct this issue & I really doubt if changing cables would do it either.
Just my experience.
Anshul
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Steve said:
There are many great speakers that are not full range. Such speakers have their place and purpose.
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Agreed,

I'm sure some find them fantastic on limited bandwidth music, but we are talking about a 15K plus speaker, If apdoc assessment is correct, I'm confident my opinion will not change, IMO, port noise chuffing and overloaded bass drivers to the point of annoyance are part of a poorly designed speaker, If I'm not allowed to say that , my apologies...

If you cant get the Bass fundamentals right the tonal balance will be completely wrong on everything. This is not to say Raidho speakers are bad or poorly designed, just this particular model

Regards..
 
a.wayne said:
Agreed, but we are talking about a 15K plus speaker, If apdoc assesment is correct, I'm confident my opinion will not change, IMO, port noise chuffing and overloaded bass drivers to the point of annoyance are part of a poorly designed speaker, If I'm not allowed to say that , my apologies...

This is not to say Raidho speakers are bad or poorly designed, just this particular model

Regards..
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Would it be your assessment that the ports are not big enough?


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Yes and cabinet design, the ratio's have to be right or the distortion takes off , they did use a rear port which is a major advantage, it moves port/phase distortion out of the main picture so it's really bad if apdoc can hear this distortion from his listening position .


Stuff like this give vented enclosures a bad rap ...


Regards..
 
i'm actually looking forward to hearing the new Devialet stuff in a few weeks. the D Premier demos from a few years back were not good (on Martin Logan and Focal), but will give the D400 a fresh look at Newport.
 
Played at reasonably loud volumes there isn't an issue. They can be pushed to the point that they sound stressed and then when pushed more they will pop. There is a limit to how loud a 2-way using a small woofer can go.

a.wayne said:
Yes and cabinet design, the ratio's have to be right or the distortion takes off , they did use a rear port which is a major advantage, it moves port/phase distortion out of the main picture so it's really bad if apdoc can hear this distortion from his listening position .


Stuff like this give vented enclosures a bad rap ...


Regards..
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Hi Proff,

Yes that would be academic if overdriven, i would expect the distortion to be so high one would take notice. Apdoc description is what should be at task here, he did not say "overdriven" he said when listening it was unacceptable to him and from a technical point of view unacceptable to me if said description was accurate in a 15K speaker.


Apparently this not a good topic, i will retrac my opinion and apologize, audio today is pretty much devoid of "opinion" unless favorable and yet many complain about review ad copies in magazines and the ever revolving door of equipment as everyone keeps quiet about the "nasties" while waiting for the next new extolls from another overnight never seen before Audio reviewer/expert...

Every objective/subjective, negative opinion/experience is deemed as "hate" ... :(



Sorry for the rant ...
 
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