AI music, let’s discuss the elephant in the room

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It started rather innocent with a clever track or two using Johnny Cash’s voice. But today, AI is creating fictitious artists producing entire albums with convincing voices and songs.

I am unsure where I stand on this issue. On one hand, I know it’s not real. On the other hand, I enjoy the music. The conflict is real.

Regardless of where you stand, there is no denying AI music is here to stay.





 
I haven't heard that much AI music. I listened to your first track, it's alright, but the vocals lack emotion. Will we hear songs with vocals like Marvin Gaye, Let's Get It ON or Adell, Set Fire To The Rain? There's infinite example but you probably get what I mean.

I know very little about it, I wonder who would get royalties or credit, etc.?
 
I liked the story about a guy who created AI music, uploaded it to a streaming service, created AI bots to "listen" to it, and then collected the revenue generated from the listens.
 
Mike said:
I am unsure where I stand on this issue. On one hand, I know it’s not real. On the other hand, I enjoy the music. The conflict is real.

Regardless of where you stand, there is no denying AI music is here to stay.





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Are you sure this music was made by IA ? :eek:

I thought that in the not-too-distant future, only art would distinguish us from AI and be the fingerprint of our humanity... But not even art? look at those strange yet magnificent videos...





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZIohbVfCK4&list=RDj7CdI49_CnM&index=5
 
It’s fascinating to me.

I remember discussions about sorta this type of thing when synthesizers became popular way back. The shock that something else (fake synth) could sound like a violin etc.

To me if you enjoy it - what difference does it make? To me, AI music has yet to have the emotion. But I’m sure that’s just a matter of time.

Yes, it obviously hurts the artists out there. And I feel for them. However. Computers in their whole existence have cost people in various industries their jobs as time goes on. And also they have created jobs in IT.

The whole tech conundrum continues.
 
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I listened again the videos that Mike posted and realized what was strange about them: the music sound so familiar that I could almost swear I'd heard it somewhere before. And I found myself thinking that perhaps that's the limitation of AI: the inability to create something truly new and disruptive. AI "builds" on what it knows, on what already exists in databases. And that leaves space for true artists, for true creatives...
 
Even though I am a retired software engineer and have spent many a year deep in tech, computers, coding, data, etc., I am not a fan of AI. There are parts that can be used as a very good thing, but typical of humans, we find ways of corrupting and using new tech for not so great of purposes.

I have always believed that really good music takes incredible artistry and can touch your soul. AI is great at copying and expanding a bit from there. But the level of artistry that a great musician has is simply not AI's forte.

I would say much of what we see is the type of music being listened to. Electronic beats and simple tunes (i.e. a lot of the current pop/hip hop scene) can probably be done by AI.

There is a call to require anything generated by AI to be labeled as such. I 100% support this requirement.

I will always prefer music that is created by artist who have dedicated their lives to their craft. Dedicated their lives to music.
 
A friend posted a song on FB and she has some other songs on her page, they are very good IMO. I did notice the singing voice was quite a bit different from her speaking voice so I asked if the songs were hers. She wrote the lyrics but used an app to do the music. So essentially AI music with her lyrics. If she hadn't told me I would have never known the songs were AI. The voice was really convinceing sometimes soft and other times almost growling.

I don't know how I feel about this. The songs were certainly good enough I would listen to them. I wanted to share them on a music page I belong to but wrestle with whether I want to promote or embrace AI.

As a side note my granddaughter was over and she looked something up on her iPhone. She has her AI tuned up to where it's like she is talking to an actual person. She gave it a description of a movie and asked what it was. The conversation was a bit unsettling actually. Too real. She just turned 13 so I wonder what the future will be like for her and how different it was for my daughter at her age and myself at that age.
 
I am also not a fan of AI due to the negative uses we have been seeing. Fake Pics, Fake Videos and Lies. They are incorporating it into our software and ticketing system which has been helpful but it has been trained on facts, valid documentation, and agency regulations.

Google Search is AI and it has been trained to hide Truth and Facts while pushing the propaganda to the top. Most other search engines use Google behind whatever they tell you.

As for music, I cannot say I have heard much but hey. it might be better than a lot of what has been put out for the last several decades in general.
 
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