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011 monos look AWESOME!

Or 4 minutes...whatever. I'm more an SIA-025 guy. Mainly for the reality check of still needing to buy the matching preamp after forking over the dough for those beauties. Not that I haven't thought about selling a body part or two to fund it.
 
The Vitus SM-102 monoblocks running in Class A mode are some seriously sweet amps. I'd also love to hear the SM-011 monoblocks and compare their intelligent Class AB bias sound to my Soulution 501 monoblocks. The SIA-025 and SS-101 integrated, and SS-102 stereo look like nice amps but just don't deliver enough power in the Class A mode to interest me with my incoming speakers' 83.5 dB sensitivity.

Ken
 
The mighty Vitus are coming to a store near you !!! :yahoo1:

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If you have not heard the SM102's you would be quite surprised at the power/current they deliver running in Class A. The SM011's Intelligent Class A amps are also very strong amps. We have both sets of amps and would suggest that you listen to them vs. looking at their VERY conservative power ratings.
 
If you have not heard the SM102's you would be quite surprised at the power/current they deliver running in Class A. The SM011's Intelligent Class A amps are also very strong amps. We have both sets of amps and would suggest that you listen to them vs. looking at their VERY conservative power ratings.

What is intelligent bias? How does it work? The predecessor, 010, was 40 watts class A. Is the 011 the same?

How does the 011 compare to the 102? I heard the a big stereo amp in Toronto (so did Paul) on Magico S5's and it was incredible.

Bob, have you tried the glorious Absolare tube amps on your new Magico's?
 
SM-011 30 watts class A but higher class A/B at 200w. Paper specs only.


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What is intelligent bias? How does it work? The predecessor, 010, was 40 watts class A. Is the 011 the same?

How does the 011 compare to the 102? I heard the a big stereo amp in Toronto (so did Paul) on Magico S5's and it was incredible.

Bob, have you tried the glorious Absolare tube amps on your new Magico's?

Intelligent Bias Class A circuit directly measures the output current of the amplifier and adjusts the bias to the optimum level. Because Intelligent Bias Class A measures the output current, the real time demands of the specific speaker connected to the amp are directly incorporated into the circuit function. In addition, Intelligent Bias Class A even reduces the bias when the signal is at very low levels, making its operation undetectable by ear and even by standard amplifier measurements.

Best,
Ken
 
What is intelligent bias? How does it work? The predecessor, 010, was 40 watts class A. Is the 011 the same?

How does the 011 compare to the 102? I heard the a big stereo amp in Toronto (so did Paul) on Magico S5's and it was incredible.

Bob, have you tried the glorious Absolare tube amps on your new Magico's?

Howdy Mike..... ( I edited this post as it was not clear originally)

The Intelligent class A has a monitoring circuit that increases and decreases operating temperature of the output devices. It is "theoretically" performing in class A most of the time, without constant high temp operation.

From when Hans changed/updated from the 010 to the O11's there were several changes and he then rated the amplifiers with more realistic power ratings.....200W on the 011's. They are very powerful.

As always there is the system synergy/speaker thing going on, but with the Magicos or Kaiser that I have used the 011's and SM102's if you listen to the 102's in AB mode they sound great, UNTIL you hit the button on the remote and then hear the SM102's in Class A mode. For me the SM102's in Class A mode is "the berries".

The SM011's are just so easy to live with size wise and operating temp wise vs. the SM102's running in Class A, which "heat up". The 011's sound different that the 102's in Class A, maybe faster, VERY transparent, very open sounding, but with good body to the images.

The SM011's run in Class A or ICA to 40 Watts, 200 Watts into 8 ohm and 400 Watts into 4 ohm in Class AB, switchable via remote.

The 102's are rich, a little warmer than the 011's, VERY full bodied, authoritative, tube like midrange, world class bass, transparent, but maybe not as transparent as the 011's. When both the 102's and 011's are running in Class A the sound is closer in nature than not, the 011's might not have the "weight" of the 102's.

If you are listening to the 011's on the Magicos you say these are the ones. Then you switch to the 102's and you say no, these are the ones, etc., they both sound REALLY good with Magico especially. That one notch on the warm side vs. totally neutral matches so well with the Magicos.

Have not tried the Absolare SET's yet as they are at a customer's who is waiting for his Kondo Kaguras. I will have them back in a few weeks when his Kaguras are delivered, which will be driving Q7 MKII's. The Absolare SET's drive the Q7II's in a good size room to pretty good levels.

I have tried the Kaguras with the S7's (not the S5II's yet as Myles has my Kaguras at the moment) and they are VERY holographic and sound great, BUT when you put on the Vitus Sm102's in Class A the S7's stand up to attention and roar.

One last point is that like most amps, but especially with the SM102's they take at least an hour playing in Class A mode to really strut their stuff. The SM011's take some time to warm up as well, but not as long as the SM102's. They are both VERY listenable from the get-go but after an hour in Class A with the 102's then you understand what they are all about.
 
Howdy Mike.....

The Intelligent class A has a monitoring circuit that increases and decreases operating temperature of the output devices. It is "theoretically" performing in class A most of the time, without constant high temp operation.

From when Hans changed/updated from the 010 to the O11's there were several changes and he then rated the amplifiers with more realistic power ratings.....200W on the 011's. They are very powerful.

As always there is the system synergy/speaker thing going on, but with the Magicos or Kaiser that I have used the 011's and SM102's if you listen to the 102's in AB mode they sound great, UNTIL you hit the button on the remote and then hear the SM102's in Class A mode. For me the SM102's in Class A mode is "the berries".

The SM011's are just so easy to live with size wise and operating temp wise vs. the SM102's running in Class A, which "heat up". The 011's sound different that the 102's in Class A, maybe faster, VERY transparent, very open sounding, but with good body to the images.

The 102's are rich, a little warmer than the 011's, VERY full bodied, authoritative, tube like midrange, world class bass, transparent, but maybe not as transparent as the 011's.

If you are listening to the 011's on the Magicos you say these are the ones. Then you switch to the 102's and you say no, these are the ones, etc., they both sound REALLY good with Magico especially. That one notch on the warm side vs. totally neutral matches so well with the Magicos.

Have not tried the Absolare SET's yet as they are at a customer's who is waiting for his Kondo Kaguras. I will have them back in a few weeks when his Kaguras are delivered, which will be driving Q7 MKII's. The Absolare SET's drive the Q7II's in a good size room to pretty good levels.

I have tried the Kaguras with the S7's (not the S5II's yet as Myles has my Kaguras at the moment) and they are VERY holographic and sound great, BUT when you put on the Vitus Sm102's in Class A the S7's stand up to attention and roar.

One last point is that like most amps, but especially with the SM102's they take at least an hour playing in Class A mode to really strut their stuff. The SM011's take some time to warm up as well, but not as long as the SM102's. They are both VERY listenable from the get-go but after an hour in Class A with the 102's then you understand what they are all about.

Hi Bob,

Which sounds better, the SM-102 in Class AB mode or the SM-011? What is the U.S. MSRP of each one?

Thanks,
Ken
 
Hi Bob,

Which sounds better, the SM-102 in Class AB mode or the SM-011? What is the U.S. MSRP of each one?

Thanks,
Ken

Hi Ken,

That's a tough one, I think it might come down to personal taste and speaker/system combination. My preferences are:

1) SM102 Class A ($67.200/pair)

2) SM011 ($50,400/pair) ( these amps have a "sparkle" to them, meaning VERY OPEN high end)....I really like/love them UNTIL I put on the 102 Class A The SM011's running in Class A/ICA (40 Watts) are as good as the SM102's running in Class A but only go to 40 Watts in A vs 100 in the SM012's. Although the 40 Watts in A never seem to run out of steam with the Magicos, but when you turn up the volume on say the Vandy's they would run out of steam in the A mode.

3) SM102 Class A/B and SM011 in A mode OR the SM011's in A/B mode, they are different but both very good.

A nice feature of the SM102's is via the remote control you can switch from A/B to Class A. As Adam said you can also do the same thing on the SM011's from the remote.
 
Hey Ken,

Thinking about it, and this is just a guess, if I had to guess at which Vitus amps between the 102's and 011's on the Vandy's I would probably pick the O11's. The power would be better AND I think that openness that I mentioned would work well with the Vandy's, but again I am totally guessing.

Ken, the SM011's on moderate volume running in Class A would probably be fine on the Vandy's. You would have to switch to A/B to pump up the volume on the Vandys.
 
You can do that on the SM011 as well.

Hi Adam,

Are you sure? I thought the SM-011 is an Intelligent Class A amp, which would essentially be a Class AB that operates in Class A as often as possible without producing excessive heat. I thought the SM-010 was the switchable one between Class A and Class AB.

Best,
Ken
 
Hi Adam,

Are you sure? I thought the SM-011 is an Intelligent Class A amp, which would essentially be a Class AB that operates in Class A as often as possible without producing excessive heat. I thought the SM-010 was the switchable one between Class A and Class AB.

Best,
Ken

(I edited my answer as I was not clear originally)

Nope Adam is correct you can run the O11's in Class A via the remote or going into the menu.

To clarify, when you run the SM011's in Class A (which is Intelligent Class A) the power is 40 Watts.

When you switch (either via the remote or on the menu from the front panel) to AB the power is 200W into 8 ohms and 400W into 4 ohms.
 
Hi Adam,

Are you sure? I thought the SM-011 is an Intelligent Class A amp, which would essentially be a Class AB that operates in Class A as often as possible without producing excessive heat. I thought the SM-010 was the switchable one between Class A and Class AB.

Best,
Ken

Ken, 103 for you ! Silver or Black ? [emoji6]

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