Viocustized my room!

Mike I keep looking at your room and am amazed at how far it's come. Does the ceiling give you any trouble as far as reflections? Also, what are the amp stands that the Cary's are on? Nice camera work btw...
 
Thanks Doug. I'm not hearing any issues with that thin ceiling strip, but may put some diffusers up there. The Cary amps are on 4 inch thick Timbernation stands.
 
BlueMcIntosh said:
Are you putting them on the corner where you have triangle bass traps now ? if so do they going to fit in there ? Doesn't look like you have 6 ft height there.
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The 6 footers will go in the middle and cover the window area. The 4 footers go in the corners.
 
Mike - your upgrades to your room look terrific! I, too, have the 45 degree angled ceiling sides to deal with in my room, and treating the ceiling (in my case, with ASC Cinema Panels) made a huge difference in the reflections and harshness in the upper midrange/lower treble. It's still not the ideal room, but it is so much better than it was. Your Vicoustics panels really do fit in nicely!
 
Mike said:
Amazing Doug. Amazing. I've gone from having one of the worst rooms in our audiophile club, to probably one of the best.


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Great looking set-up, Mike. My room is very similar to yours. Currently I use absorption on the front wall and the lower side walls. I've always thought treating the angled side walls might have benefit, but never pursued it. The Vicoustics seem to provide a simple (and attractive) way to do it. Two questions - how do the panels attach to the walls, and how did you decide on the 'pattern' we see in the pics.

Thanks,

Van
 
Cavl said:
Great looking set-up, Mike. My room is very similar to yours. Currently I use absorption on the front wall and the lower side walls. I've always thought treating the angled side walls might have benefit, but never pursued it. The Vicoustics seem to provide a simple (and attractive) way to do it. Two questions - how do the panels attach to the walls, and how did you decide on the 'pattern' we see in the pics.

Thanks,

Van
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Thanks Van. Vicoustics makes a "fast bond glue" that you use in a cocking gun. I tried Velcro, but they fell off. I guess the manufacturer knows best. :). The pattern was determined by Jeff in consultation with the manufacturer AFTER receiving my room analysis as measured by a friend of mine. That being said, if that last option isn't possible for you, then I would speak with Jeff at AV Solutions. He's done a lot of these rooms and has a really good idea where to start.

Hope that helps. :)


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kiwi_1282001 said:
Interesting work Mike and great to read you are noticing a difference.

Personally I'd give the Vicoustic vari-bass traps a miss. They are (IMHO) a gimmic.
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I've heard that too. I'm going with tube traps. They are supposed to arrive Thursday.
 
Mike said:
Thanks Van. Vicoustics makes a "fast bond glue" that you use in a cocking gun. I tried Velcro, but they fell off. I guess the manufacturer knows best. :). The pattern was determined by Jeff in consultation with the manufacturer AFTER receiving my room analysis as measured by a friend of mine. That being said, if that last option isn't possible for you, then I would speak with Jeff at AV Solutions. He's done a lot of these rooms and has a really good idea where to start.

Hope that helps. :)


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If going down the Velcro route, 50mm (2") industrial strength self adhesive Velcro must me used. Not the generic brands either. It needs to traverse the width of the panel at each end.

The industrial strength Velcro has stronger adhesion & is typically used in the boating industry.

It is possible to use smaller strips but you would have to glue a thin ply onto the polyurethane foam.

It is costlier than using the purpose Flexi-glue but offers the option of removal.
 
kiwi_1282001 said:
Hi Mike,

Any chance of some "before" and "after" frequency response, decay and reverberation time curves?

If memory serves me right you removed all your previous acoustic treatments when the D3's were in residence?

Cheers
Ralph
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Ralph - yes. I'm not sure it will happen any time soon. My friend who did the measurements, Captain's giant oil ships and is usually gone for months at a time. He is home now for a few days, but maybe when he is home for a longer stint, I will ask him.

There is no excess ringing with piano, trumpet, etc. I'm listening to Nils Lofgren - Keith Don't Go. This was a song that reverberated around my room like crazy. Right now it sounds as if Nils is right here playing in my room.

I must admit, going from zero to all in, takes some getting use to. The change was so dramatic. I need to do a lot more listening. I'm running through the tracks that drove me nuts in my room before (for example, Jennifer Nettles - love her voice, but she would hit these notes and yowser! If it was too loud, it would come across as shrill). Not any more. :)

Here is something else that I've noticed. Before treatments, my room had a limit before things got ringy and out of control. Now, I can play MUCH louder and everything stays focused and in control.

I still need to read about your room ventures. Mark (MDP) was telling me how impressive it was. I will try to get caught up tomorrow.

Mike


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Mike....Now I'm just wondering ....What if you had all these room treatments in your room when you had a world class speakers like a D3 , Aida and Strads..... Well I guess its too late to know.....
 
BlueMcIntosh said:
Mike....Now I'm just wondering ....What if you had all these room treatments in your room when you had a world class speakers like a D3 , Aida and Strads..... Well I guess its too late to know.....
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I have world class speakers now. :)

The Aida's were just too big for my room. They would be different in a big 30 x 40 room. The D3's, well we know the problems and I think a treated room would have meant I played them louder and they would have popped earlier....now, the Strads? Man, I miss the Strads. Second best speaker I've ever owned.


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Mike...congrats on the room treatments and the upgrade in sound! If I am lucky enough to have a dedicated room down the road, I will attack room treatments first before entertaining any component upgrades/purchases. As your and many others experiences have attested to, the speaker-room interface when addressed seems to pay off the most dividends when considering optimizing SQ. Well done!
 
Thank you Cyril. I had a lot of help from Jeff and friends, Bart and John. The transformation was like going from a stairwell into a recording studio. Amazing.


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A tastefully done room that looks like a delightful place to listen to music. The change in sound must be dramatic! I've got four vicoustic panels on the way for my front wall. My ceiling is the biggest issue in my room. The curved face of the vicoustic megawood seems to be a nice answer for ceiling reflections. Thoughts?
 
WAY COOL.........LOOKS very, very nice and I am sure it sounds even better.

Cheers, Tom
 
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