"To Lampi or not to Lampi?....That is the question." by William Shake-it-up

Not all amps are as susceptible to DC offset as others. Only one I have ever owned that was reputed to have a problem with it was the JOB. Tried it with three different tube preamps and no problem. So unless multiple users have had the problem with multiple brands of amps wouldn't seem to be that big a problem. The person with multiple issues may have been using it DAC direct and if so a preamp in the chain may have resolved it.
 
Ken,

The big thing to me is no DAC chip. You can actually play back the electrical pulses direct from the file and it is music! All you need to do is filter the stream to keep out the unwanted frequencies. To me this seams much closer (than converting PCM) to what happens when a needle is mechanically activated and then creates electric pulses through the induction in a coil. I question if this is part of why DSD sounds so much more like analog to many people than PCM, but someone a lot smarter than me would need to explain this phenomena. All that I know is that a lot of people I respect have found this technique sounds very analog for a digital source.

See the quote below from Lampi.


"THE LAMPIZATOR DSD DAC HAS USB PORT BUILT IN, SOLID STATE DIGITAL FILTER, PASSIVE DISCRETE ANALOG FILTER AND ACTIVE DISCRETE TUBE FILTER. IT DOES NOT MANIPULATE THE DATA IN ANY SHAPE OR FORM, IT DOES NOT CONVERT IT, UPSAMPLE, RECLOCK OR DOWNSAMPLE. IT DOES NOT GO THROUGH PCM PROCESS EITHER. IT IS PUREST NATIVE DSD WE KNOW OF. WE PRACTICALLY ONLY GENTLY REMOVE THE CARRIER FREQUENCY FROM THE RAW DATA AS IT COMES FROM HARD DRIVE. NOTHING MORE NOTHING LESS."


Hi Paul,

Thank you for the explanation. I hope all is well with you.

Best,
Ken
 
Just a thought regarding the dc offset. Would a SS preamp fix this issue ?

In most cases yes, as most SS gear has a circuity to block the DC at the input. So do most power amps, but as always - there are exeptions, and those amps can cause problems.
 
Adam I understand the presence of DC in a tube device is not related to the impedance on the attached amp, but I was wondering about the load the amp shows the tube device being large enough to suppress its DC to negligible levels.

It is the opposite. The lower input impedance should be even better with regards to this issue.
 
BTW - I have yesterday installed my old Lampi DSD in friend's system. He has the darTzeel amp and Wilson Maxx II speakers.

The darTZeels are known to be sensitive to DC, especially the early Model A models (a friend of mine was blowing fuses every time he tried to connect the Kondo M1000 mk II preamp to his darTZeel Model A poweramp), but again - zero problems on the Model B with lampi.
 
How can you speak for others who did not. Why not speak for me then about my other dacs that had issues. For what ever reason you seem slighted about a fine product so spill it already why ???


I am one of the people Mike was referring to. I have no desire to enter this thread & comment on Lampizator but I can tell you the experience I had will definitely keep me in the camp of never owning one of his products again. Mike has information that was private, so does Paul/FlexibleAudio, they have not divulged this or their sources, very well mannered. I could start a shit-storm but i have no desire to! End of topic for me.

So now you seem to be the one designated to do a call to action against lampi lol. Why do you hate them so much. It seems a waiste of ones time.
A while back I bought a hugo
It was supposed to be the best dac and some insisted it was better than a 10 K. Dac. One person claims it's as good as there 45K msb stack.
I bought it to be used with my ciems and an iPhone As a transport. THe dac is far from great and honestly not worth the 2500 I payed for it.
My point is not all products are as good as what we read
Unfortunately for you the lampi products exceeds it's expectations
But some how this is not good enough for you. You need to find the few unhappy people and exploit there stories as your own

What's wrong with you to hate a company so much. And make the happy people wonder if they made the right choice. Not cool to bash as you do not own one.
I sometimes bash ps audio DS dac. But hey I own one.
Buy one already then you have earned the right to gripe until then shut up. Myles I like this website but this mike guy has ruined this place for me.
Hatred is bad business for everyone including the website forums.

...maybe it's the condescension.
 
Hi Kev,

How's your 520 doing? I am loving mine, smooth, neutral, nuanced, quiet with amazing timbral purity. So glad I went for it. It is a winner for sure.

Ken
 
Correct Bill.


Hey Ken, it is an amazing pre-amp that foots it with some of the best. At the moment I have a synergy problem going on between my Line Magnetic & the preamp if I use them both with the LM in bypass mode. I am hoping it is the Ztron Anaconda i/c & have a Siltech Royal Signature Princess coming tomorrow. Have just thrown the Psvane WE replica tubes at the LM & it is sounding a treat. Sorry for the off topic Paul.... ;)
 
Kev...Please offer your impressions on the Siltech on the other thread when you have them in. ��
 
Steve, which one?


Princess XLR? I wonder how they would compare to WW PE G7 XLR...

The Siltech RMII G7 (FI-50) is my favourite power connect.

(sorry for off topic, but for the Lampi guys, Wireworld Platinum Starlight USB G7 up to 3m is the go!)
 
Bottom line….When I think about buying a DAC or any other piece of gear, the last thing I want to hear are denials, explanations and excuses.
 
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