The Upgrade Company's Oppo mods?

I think people are smart enough to know what snake oil smells like, if not, they soon will be :snicker:

I'm not sure I understand your comment. It really comes across as uninformed, in this case. Based upon comments in this thread, from folks with actual experience, the opposite is obviously evident. Not to mention independent reviews of some of the equipment, which also support the comments from folks with actual experience.

I think sometimes that folks don't understand what they don't know and have not experienced, so they know only one way to comment - disbelief and negative.

Dave
 
Good luck selling gear he has touched.

Are you saying this from personal experience? I've had no issues selling the couple of items that I sold. However, I've decided to keep most of the equipment, because I enjoy all of it so much. Not that I haven't tried other equipment - much more expensive equipment by the way. Still, I come back to my upgraded components - such great performance and value!

Dave
 
Are you saying this from personal experience? I've had no issues selling the couple of items that I sold. However, I've decided to keep most of the equipment, because I enjoy all of it so much. Not that I haven't tried other equipment - much more expensive equipment by the way. Still, I come back to my upgraded components - such great performance and value!

Dave

Hmm. You stated you joined the forum because of this Friar Tuck thread and all of your 7 posts so far have been on this thread. This seems to be a common occurrence on forums when Friar Tucks 'mods' are mentioned. I can't imagine anyone who owns an expensive piece of high end gear sending it off to have the blue goo and tin foil treatment done which would void the warranty and the OEM would never touch it for repairs or future upgrades.

I would think you would have an easier time selling used condoms than selling a real piece of high end gear that had been slathered in blue goo and wrapped in tin foil. It makes SR room treatment products look like engineering marvels by comparison.
 
Are you saying this from personal experience? I've had no issues selling the couple of items that I sold. However, I've decided to keep most of the equipment, because I enjoy all of it so much. Not that I haven't tried other equipment - much more expensive equipment by the way. Still, I come back to my upgraded components - such great performance and value!

Dave
Dave, I'm with mep on this. If I were looking for a 2nd hand Pass, Dartzeel, Vitus or Gryphon component for example, if the component had been modded in any way (with the possible exception of a factory upgrade module), that would be a huge red flag for me and I would walk away. Manufacturers like Vitus design their gear with modular construction and offer field-upgradeable upgrade modules when available, however they are an exception.
 
FWIW, the TUC website claims their Oppo units still carry the manufacturer's warranty.
 
FWIW, the TUC website claims their Oppo units still carry the manufacturer's warranty.

I would want confirmation from Oppo before I sent off a piece of their gear for the Friar Tuck treatment.
 
Dave (Shultz).... Or whoever you are. Like many forums before, like many new posters before boosting TUG, TUG is known in the industry as a grey market exchange. It is not an authorised dealer for the brands that go out its door. It is not an authorised repair centre. It is a front to shift what has become 2nd hand stagnated goods out the back door. The value add claim is indeed a product liability.

Do you really think TUG is going to warrant refund or replacement for a pair of upgraded MC2KW if they blow up in your face? Do you think an insurer would cover the consequential losses also once the assessor discovers unauthorised modifications?

TUG is a scam.
 
Dave (Shultz).... Or whoever you are. Like many forums before, like many new posters before boosting TUG, TUG is known in the industry as a grey market exchange. It is not an authorised dealer for the brands that go out its door. It is not an authorised repair centre. It is a front to shift what has become 2nd hand stagnated goods out the back door. The value add claim is indeed a product liability.

Do you really think TUG is going to warrant refund or replacement for a pair of upgraded MC2KW if they blow up in your face? Do you think an insurer would cover the consequential losses also once the assessor discovers unauthorised modifications?

TUG is a scam.

Hi Steve,

Is this speculation on your part? Or, do you have any experience/evidence of what you are mentioning? If the evidence is folks who bash TUG, then you really have no basis for those comments. When I first considered TUG, I read through the forums and saw comments like yours. None of the negative comments had any foundation in anything except speculation and a seeming intent to put down TUG. At least the new posters boosting TUG have direct experience, which I respect more than these unfounded comments.

Dave
 
Hmm. You stated you joined the forum because of this Friar Tuck thread and all of your 7 posts so far have been on this thread. This seems to be a common occurrence on forums when Friar Tucks 'mods' are mentioned. I can't imagine anyone who owns an expensive piece of high end gear sending it off to have the blue goo and tin foil treatment done which would void the warranty and the OEM would never touch it for repairs or future upgrades.

I would think you would have an easier time selling used condoms than selling a real piece of high end gear that had been slathered in blue goo and wrapped in tin foil. It makes SR room treatment products look like engineering marvels by comparison.

Hi mep,

Actually, that's incorrect. I never mentioned any "Friar Tuck" thread, however, your post does display your emotional determination to bash something for which you apparently have zero experience.

Your comments cement the point I made earlier about folks who make uninformed comments and folks not understanding what they do not know and have not experienced.


Dave
 
Dave, I'm with mep on this. If I were looking for a 2nd hand Pass, Dartzeel, Vitus or Gryphon component for example, if the component had been modded in any way (with the possible exception of a factory upgrade module), that would be a huge red flag for me and I would walk away. Manufacturers like Vitus design their gear with modular construction and offer field-upgradeable upgrade modules when available, however they are an exception.

Hi Bodhi,

I understand what you are saying. However, there are folks out there who will buy a piece of gear that has been modified. We're all different. Like I mentioned in the beginning, if a modded product is not your thing, no worries, just move on to something else.

Thanks,
Dave
 
...TUG is a scam.

How does someone make a comment like this, if they don't have any direct experience?? You seem to have the intent to discredit TUC. I personally have zero respect and don't give any validity to your comment.

Dave
 
The 3 other people joining this forum to post on this thread made a total of 4 posts over 1 month in 2013 and disappeared. Suspicious, no?
thezaks, you join a thread dormant for 18 months to make a 1000 word post defending TUC.
If you're around next year, having made numerous posts on other matters, I guess you'll be owed an apology. I'm betting against it.
 
FWIW, the TUC website claims their Oppo units still carry the manufacturer's warranty.


I would want confirmation from Oppo before I sent off a piece of their gear for the Friar Tuck treatment.

And here it is,
---------------------------
Hi Chris,

Yes, any modification would void the warranty.

Best
Regards,

Customer Service
OPPO Digital, Inc.
2629B Terminal Blvd.
Mountain
View, CA 94043
[email protected]
Tel: 650-961-1118
Fax:
650-961-1119

________________________________________
From: OPPO
Store
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 6:41 AM
To: OPPO Service
Subject:
Message From Chris

Message from Contact Us Web
Page

Name: Chris
E-Mail:
Phone:
Preferred Contact
Method: E-Mail
Category: Sales
Order Number:

Note: I was reading that the Modwright OPPO modifications will cancel out any warranty on the OPPO player, is
that correct ? and what about 'The Upgrade Company'
 
This thread is not going the way it should, any personal insults or attacks will not be tolerated.

Be respectful.
 
Hi Bodhi,

I understand what you are saying. However, there are folks out there who will buy a piece of gear that has been modified. We're all different. Like I mentioned in the beginning, if a modded product is not your thing, no worries, just move on to something else.

Thanks,
Dave
Hi Dave,

You're right. When I replied I had ultra high end gear in mind (typical me, lol! :D). Fyi, I heavily modded my Ayon CD-5s which is a much more expensive player. But because I had my player modded by a very reputable high end audio engineer (not DIY or by a 'tech'), and the mods were all sensible, if anything it helped me sell my player. But the mods didn't add any value to my player & I ended up selling the player for the going rate at the time. And I marketed the mods very well with high res photos, links to my Audio Engineer's site etc. I've heard other 'philes have had success selling modded gear above bluebook value. It depends if there is a niche for that product and whether the parts you're incorporating into your project are the 'flavour of the hour'. In other words, it can be hit and miss. After that experience, I decided to simply buy a better player and be content as you said.

Cheers,
Bodhi.
 
The 3 other people joining this forum to post on this thread made a total of 4 posts over 1 month in 2013 and disappeared. Suspicious, no?
thezaks, you join a thread dormant for 18 months to make a 1000 word post defending TUC.
If you're around next year, having made numerous posts on other matters, I guess you'll be owed an apology. I'm betting against it.

Hi Smile,

In that first post, I fully admitted that I'm just joining this forum, and that I came to it specifically because of the thread. I'm sure everyone comes to a forum for one reason or another, and mine was to share my experiences regarding TUC for this thread.

The intent of my post is not a defense of TUC - my intent was to share my "experience". I feel that actual experiences with TUC are a contribution to this thread and to the person who started this thread.

Dave
 
And here it is,
---------------------------
Hi Chris,

Yes, any modification would void the warranty.

Best
Regards,

Customer Service
OPPO Digital, Inc.
2629B Terminal Blvd.
Mountain
View, CA 94043
[email protected]
Tel: 650-961-1118
Fax:
650-961-1119

________________________________________
From: OPPO
Store
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 6:41 AM
To: OPPO Service
Subject:
Message From Chris

Message from Contact Us Web
Page

Name: Chris
E-Mail:
Phone:
Preferred Contact
Method: E-Mail
Category: Sales
Order Number:

Note: I was reading that the Modwright OPPO modifications will cancel out any warranty on the OPPO player, is
that correct ? and what about 'The Upgrade Company'

Hi Chris,

I think if someone is genuinely interested and wants to ask an honest question to TUC, I think it would be a good question to ask TUC. If the motive is otherwise, however, I suspect that TUC will be able to tell. I can only share my experience. When I sent in my Pioneer BDP-05FD blu ray player for an update modification, it came back playing video, but not audio. TUC asked me to send it back right away. They took a look at the player, and found some issues with it - suspicious of shipping issues. They immediately sent me a brand new upgraded BDP-05FD. I haven't had a problem with it since, and that was 2-3 years ago.

Thanks,
Dave
 
Hi Chris,

I think if someone is genuinely interested and wants to ask an honest question to TUC, I think it would be a good question to ask TUC. If the motive is otherwise, however, I suspect that TUC will be able to tell. I can only share my experience. When I sent in my Pioneer BDP-05FD blu ray player for an update modification, it came back playing video, but not audio. TUC asked me to send it back right away. They took a look at the player, and found some issues with it - suspicious of shipping issues. They immediately sent me a brand new upgraded BDP-05FD. I haven't had a problem with it since, and that was 2-3 years ago.

Thanks,
Dave

Hi Dave, maybe TUC is going to warranty the repairs on the unit themselves and fix the unit at their repair shop. All I know and I can only go by what OPPO informed me, if you send a OPPO product back to OPPO for repairs and it has been modified by someone other than OPPO, your going to get it back. not repaired.
 
Hi Dave, maybe TUC is going to warranty the repairs on the unit themselves and fix the unit at their repair shop. All I know and I can only go by what OPPO informed me, if you send a OPPO product back to OPPO for repairs and it has been modified by someone other than OPPO, your going to get it back. not repaired.

Hi Chris,

Thanks for sharing that! I think you're right, TUC would have to back the warranty themselves, with regards to the Oppo units. As I mentioned earlier, Onkyo seems to be fine with repairing modded home theater processors, as long as the mod isn't the cause of the issue.

Dave
 
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