The speaker fairy showed up today - JBL 4367 !!!

Hi joe,
I missed this thread!
Congrats , of course.... ! I didn't think you guys were so much into JBL as this brand is rarely put forward here...

I have been proposed the 4429 new for 4000 instead of 6k in a shop in Paris a week ago.... Seriously thinking about it;

To come back to the 4367 sure they are desirable, for they are one of the last realisation of Greg Timbers before being fired by the japonese....but for a little more you could have had the M2 crown experience, which according to the guys on LH is paramount.... the daughters of the 4430 ! sexier, and much more powerfull.... The crown intergarte DSP on it as the M2 have but a very small passive crossover. The filtering and room equalizinf, and tuning to your taste is made by the amp.
Have considered these before your purchase ?
 
Hi,

Yes, I very much obsessed over the M2 with either the Crown or Levinson package. I was very hesitant to buy mainly because I would get locked into using either of these two amps. The easier package, and less expensive of course, was with the Crown amps. I am not a big fan of the Crown house sound although now, from owning the 4367, I suspect the M2 could have been a good package but still not my ultimate flavor.

I love the ability to use my own amps and tailor the sound to my taste. I would not have been able to get great dealer service for the M2 package and that concerned me. With the 4367, I know the rest is up to me. No secret codes or setup screens in the Crown software that I would not be privileged to using, etc. I already have an arsenal of amps to play with on the 4367 and love the variety.

The 4367 have proven to be an exceptional pair of speakers. I am content with my purchase and will wait for the upgraded M2 package to be announced :P before jumping into that system.

I think my 4367 have a slightly upgraded/modified horn mid/tweeter driver over the M2 that works amazingly well.

I tried to find M2 dealers locally to work with on the M2, but it was extremely difficult. I do not think I would have received the proper help.



jahjahlove said:
Hi joe,
I missed this thread!
Congrats , of course.... ! I didn't think you guys were so much into JBL as this brand is rarely put forward here...

I have been proposed the 4429 new for 4000 instead of 6k in a shop in Paris a week ago.... Seriously thinking about it;

To come back to the 4367 sure they are desirable, for they are one of the last realization of Greg Timbers before being fired by the Japanese....but for a little more you could have had the M2 crown experience, which according to the guys on LH is paramount.... the daughters of the 4430 ! sexier, and much more powerful.... The crown integrates DSP on it as the M2 have but a very small passive crossover. The filtering and room equalizing, and tuning to your taste is made by the amp.
Have considered these before your purchase ?
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well, fair enough...
Did you know the DSP codes has been cracked and are availbale for mini DSP....? for instance...
That is the way I chose for now : I bought a mini DSP 2*4HD and started to play with it.... measuring with rew and importing the corrections into miniDSP.
I thought it was time to learn more, and not the art/science of passive crossover.... when you hear that to make a good passive crossover one needs knowledge, luck and talent, that is two empirical factors over three.... too much for me ! so active crossover in conjunction with room equilization would be the way..... but one has to learn.... and cheaper ! I would love to hear your Bryston on the 4367... Mike is , of course, right, tubes are very nice on JBL (and differently from what you wrote once, a clean and precise preamp (bryston BP17 goes well with tubes (the MC275)) as the preamp brings "righteouness" and the amp, pleasure.

As for the Crown I am puzzling ! I just bought the cheapest Crown on earth the xli 800 to make my test with cheap gear and to bi amp temporarily before bying a good 300 W SS amp. Of course the 4B3 was on the list but the crown at 270 € works surprisingly well and I am saying to myself : how a crown DCI 2/300 would compare to the 4B ? the first one sales here 1300 € and the second 5300 €!
 
Just now seeing this. Congratulations Joe!

I've actually had a pair of these for about 2 months. Heard them when I was demo-ing some other speakers to replace my 802D2's and -- as I had the opportunity to sell my B&W's -- I went ahead and just bought them to have something here so as not to be speakerless (that kinda sounds depressing). The price was nice...

What impressed me was just how "there" and involving they were at the dealer. Same thing at home.

As I told Joe earlier, the McIntosh gear has never been the ultimate in transparency or detail, but I'm getting a lot of this with these. No horn coloration that I can really detect. And the 15" woofer is surprisingly fast.

Don't have near as much gear in the stable as Joe (who does...), but I've also put my Hegel H30 on them with good results. And just for kicks--I hooked up a pair of Crown XLS 1500's I had (intending to use them on some outdoor zones at some point in place of my
Control4 multichannel amp). Not bad at all--very clean and tight. Honestly, a $400 amp shouldn't sound as good as these do.

Anyway, glad to have another 4367 owner in the mix.
 
Hi Rance,

I am so happy that you love your 4367's. They are superb and sound great with almost every amp.

I am sure the H30 is wonderful. For horn speakers, these are some of the least "horny" speakers that I've ever experienced. You are right, a totally "you are there" experience with zero shout, smoooooooooth and slightly sweet, yet all is there. Just a blast to own and play.

Once I heard you had a pair, that made 3 or 4 out there that I knew of in the wild. I had obsessed about these since knowing they were coming out.

I am a happy camper.
 
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Its still moving! LoL
 
Hi Craig, Thank you so much. ALL my threads seem to take on a life of their own. My Strads have a special place in my heart but I love what these JBL 4367's are doing. I'm fortunate to have such great choices.
 
Just listened to some Stones on these at near concert level.

Wow! It's like the more you push them the better they get.
 
joeinid said:
Please tell us more Keith. :exciting:
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Devore Fidelity Gibbon Xs in the cherry bamboo finish have landed. Looking forward to setup/burn in over the next few weeks! I have not purchased a new loudspeaker in 6 years - so this is a big, and somewhat scary move...:exciting:
 
Congratulations Keith. That's awesome. I am so happy for you. Great choice in speakers, can't wait for photos and thoughts.




KeithR said:
Devore Fidelity Gibbon Xs in the cherry bamboo finish have landed. Looking forward to setup/burn in over the next few weeks! I have not purchased a new loudspeaker in 6 years - so this is a big, and somewhat scary move...:exciting:
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Thanks Joe for the info on the 4367s! I have had the JBL M2s on the brain for some time. I heard a vintage set of Klipsch speakers and was reminded of the unfettered speed and dynamics of higher efficiency horn designs. I am actively contemplating a custom build using their drivers, custom series x-overs and a 7 layer birch box built by and mechanically by the Starsound folks.
 
My pleasure. I absolutely love my 4367. Smooth, sweet, musical, powerful bass, listen all day good, easy to drive and easy to place. Maybe not classic "audiophile" speakers like Magico, et al, but just so satisfying to me.

I'd love to see what you end up building. I am sure you will do an amazing job.
 
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