Tariff implications.........

crwilli said:
Bullshit. There are a myriad of results for those that voted for Donald J Trump. Just start with the Border and work from there. But perhaps you are happier keeping your head in the sand.

Look, I don’t want to drink beer with President Trump. I too think he is tough to like.

But I have a bigger picture and there is no doubt in my mind that the USA is on a better path with President Trump than the ‘adult’ shadow government of Biden.

It’s about the issues not the man.
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I'm still unclear on "results" other than chaos and turmoil. Can you enumerate some of these "results"?
FWIW, at least 51% of the country disagrees that we are on a better path now
 
rbbert said:
FWIW, at least 51% of the country disagrees that we are on a better path now
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Correction - 51% of the people selected - through what ever criteria the polling company used - feel a certain way about any topic polled. It's usually only a few hundred or a couple of thousand people at most and is so easily manipulated that only a fool believes any poll about anything.

The election results when looking at the seven swing state sweep, popular vote tally, Electoral tally, and retaking of the Senate is statistically a much more valid number than the few hundred people some company decided to ask a question that you don't even know what the real question was or how phrased.

Just be honest you hate the man. That's your right. But don't hide behind a phony "poll".
 
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mep said:
Feanor said:
All said, MSM is still the best source of FACTS, if not opinions. Nowadays there is a crackpot site, blog, or YouTube channel to cater to every imaginable bias and conspiracy theory, but it's delusional to rely on those in the least degree.
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Facts like Joe Biden was sharp as a tack? Facts like footage of Joe Biden falling up the stairs on AF1 or face planting on the stage at the Air Force Academy weren't real and were "cheap fakes?"
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Cheap ad hominem attacks have nothing to do with facts.

But in that vain, when I look at Trump's tariff policy and his execution of that policy, I wonder, "Whose dementia should we worry about today?".
 
I am still waiting to hear from you which printer is fully made in the US (or new Tubes, since you are the Tube Lair)
 
Instead of allowing you to deflect once again, let's take a look at what Tariffs have brought to America -

List of new U.S.-based investments -
  • Project Stargate, led by Japan-based Softbank and U.S.-based OpenAI and Oracle, announced a $500 billion private investment in U.S.-based artificial intelligence infrastructure.
  • Apple announced a $500 billion investment in U.S. manufacturing and training.
  • NVIDIA, a global chipmaking giant, announced it will invest $500 billion in U.S.-based AI infrastructure over the next four years amid its pledge to manufacture AI supercomputers entirely in the U.S. for the first time.
  • IBM announced a $150 billion investment over the next five years in its U.S.-based growth and manufacturing operations.
  • Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company (TSMC) announced a $100 billion investment in U.S.-based chips manufacturing.
  • Johnson & Johnson announced a $55 billion investment over the next four years in manufacturing, research and development, and technology.
  • Roche, a Swiss drug and diagnostics company, announced a $50 billion investment in U.S.-based manufacturing and research and development, which is expected to create more than 1,000 full-time jobs and more than 12,000 jobs including construction.
  • Bristol Myers Squibb announced a $40 billion investment over the next five years in its research, development, technology, and U.S.-based manufacturing operations.
  • Eli Lilly and Company announced a $27 billion investment to more than double its domestic manufacturing capacity.
  • United Arab Emirates-based ADQ and U.S.-based Energy Capital Partners announced a $25 billion investment in U.S. data centers and energy infrastructure.
  • Novartis, a Swiss drugmaker, announced a $23 billion investment to build or expand ten manufacturing facilities across the U.S., which will create 4,000 new jobs.
  • Hyundai announced a $21 billion U.S.-based investment — including $5.8 billion for a new steel plant in Louisiana, which will create nearly 1,500 jobs.
    • Hyundai also secured an equity investment and agreement from Posco Holdings, South Korea’s top steel maker.
  • United Arab Emirates-based DAMAC Properties announced a $20 billion investment in new U.S.-based data centers.
  • France-based CMA CGM, a global shipping giant, announced a $20 billion investment in U.S. shipping and logistics, creating 10,000 new jobs.
 
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  • Sanofi announced it will invest at least $20 billion over the next five years in manufacturing and research and development.
  • Venture Global LNG announced an $18 billion investment at its liquefied natural gas facility in Louisiana.
  • Gilead Sciences announced an $11 billion boost to its planned U.S.-based manufacturing investment.
  • AbbVie announced a $10 billion investment over the next ten years to support volume growth and add four new manufacturing plants to its network.
  • Pratt Industries announced a $5 billion investment to create 5,000 new manufacturing jobs in Ohio, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Arizona.
  • GlobalWafers, a Taiwanese silicon wafer manufacturer, announced a $4 billion investment in its U.S.-based production.
  • Thermo Fisher Scientific announced it will invest an additional $2 billion over the next four years to enhance and expand its U.S. manufacturing operations and strengthen its innovation efforts.
  • Merck & Co. announced it will invest a total of $9 billion in the U.S. over the next several years after opening a new $1 billion North Carolina manufacturing facility — including in a new state-of-the-art biologics manufacturing plant in Delaware, which will create at least 500 new jobs.
  • Clarios announced a $6 billion plan to expand its domestic manufacturing operations.
  • Stellantis announced a $5 billion investment in its U.S. manufacturing network, including re-opening its Belvidere, Illinois, manufacturing plant.
  • In addition to its overall investments, Amazon announced it is investing $4 billion in small towns across America, creating more than 100,000 new jobs and driving opportunities across the country.
  • Regeneron Pharmaceuticals, a leader in biotechnology, announced a $3 billion agreement with Fujifilm Diosynth Biotechnologies to produce drugs at its North Carolina manufacturing facility.
  • Kraft Heinz announced a $3 billion investment to upgrade its U.S. factories — its largest investment in its plants in decades.
  • NorthMark Strategies, a multi-strategy investment firm, announced a $2.8 billion investment to build a supercomputing facility in South Carolina.
  • Kimberly-Clark announced a $2 billion investment to expand its U.S. manufacturing operations, including a new advanced manufacturing facility in Warren, Ohio, an expansion of its Beech Island, South Carolina, facility, and other upgrades to its supply chain network.
  • Chobani, a Greek yogurt giant, announced $1.7 billion to expand its U.S. operations.
    • $1.2 billion to build its third U.S. dairy processing plant in New York, which is expected to create more than 1,000 new full-time jobs.
    • $500 million to expand its Idaho manufacturing plant.
  • Corning announced it is expanding its Michigan manufacturing facility investment to $1.5 billion, adding 400 new high-paying advanced manufacturing jobs for a total of 1,500 new jobs.
  • Carrier announced an additional $1 billion investment in its U.S. manufacturing, innovation, and workforce expansion, which is expected to create 4,000 new jobs.
  • GE Aerospace announced a $1 billion investment in manufacturing across 16 states — creating 5,000 new jobs.
  • Anduril Industries announced a $1 billion investment for a new autonomous weapon system facility in Ohio.
  • Amgen announced a $900 million investment in its Ohio-based manufacturing operation.
  • Merck Animal Health announced an $895 million investment to expand their manufacturing operations in Kansas.
  • Schneider Electric announced it will invest $700 million over the next four years in U.S. energy infrastructure.
  • GE Vernova announced it will invest nearly $600 million in U.S. manufacturing over the next two years, which will create more than 1,500 new jobs.
  • Abbott Laboratories announced a $500 million investment in its Illinois and Texas facilities.
  • AIP Management, a European infrastructure investor, announced a $500 million investment to solar developer Silicon Ranch.
 
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  • London-based Diageo announced a $415 million investment in a new Alabama manufacturing facility.
  • Lego announced a $366 million investment to build a new distribution center in Prince George County, Virginia.
  • The Bel Group announced a $350 million investment to expand its U.S.-based production, including at its South Dakota, Idaho and Wisconsin facilities — which will create 250 new jobs.
  • Dublin-based Eaton Corporation announced a $340 million investment in a new South Carolina-based manufacturing facility for its three-phase transformers.
  • Anheuser-Busch announced a $300 million investment in its manufacturing facilities across the country.
  • Germany-based Siemens announced a $285 million investment in U.S. manufacturing and AI data centers, which will create more than 900 new skilled manufacturing jobs.
  • Clasen Quality Chocolate announced a $230 million investment to build a new production facility in Virginia, which will create 250 new jobs.
  • Fiserv, Inc., a financial technology provider, announced a $175 million investment to open a new strategic fintech hub in Kansas, which is expected to create 2,000 new high-paying jobs.
  • Paris Baguette announced a $160 million investment to construct a manufacturing plant in Texas.
  • Siemens Healthineers announced a $150 million investment to expand production, including relocating manufacturing operations for its Varian company from Mexico to California.
  • TS Conductor announced a $134 million investment to build an advanced conductor manufacturing facility in South Carolina, which will create nearly 500 new jobs.
  • Switzerland-based ABB announced a $120 million investment to expand production of its low-voltage electrification products in Tennessee and Mississippi.
  • Saica Group, a Spain-based corrugated packaging maker, announced plans to build a $110 million new manufacturing facility in Anderson, Indiana.
  • Hotpack, a Dubai-based maker of food packaging materials and related products, announced a $100 million investment to establish its first U.S. manufacturing facility in Edison, New Jersey.
  • Charms, LLC, a subsidiary of candymaker Tootsie Roll Industries, announced a $97.7 million investment to expand its production plant and distribution center in Tennessee.
  • Toyota Motor Corporation announced an $88 million investment to boost hybrid vehicle production at its West Virginia factory, securing employment for the 2,000 workers at the factory.
  • AeroVironment, a defense contractor, announced a $42.3 million investment to build a new manufacturing facility in Utah.
  • Paris-based Saint-Gobain announced a new $40 million NorPro manufacturing facility in Wheatfield, New York.
  • India-based Sygene International announced a $36.5 million acquisition of a Baltimore biologics manufacturing facility.
  • Asahi Group Holdings, one of the largest Japanese beverage makers, announced a $35 million investment to boost production at its Wisconsin plant.
  • Cyclic Materials, a Canadian advanced recycling company for rare earth elements, announced a $20 million investment in its first U.S.-based commercial facility, located in Mesa, Arizona.
  • Guardian Bikes announced a $19 million investment to build the first U.S.-based large-scale bicycle frame manufacturing operation in Indiana.
  • Amsterdam-based AMG Critical Minerals announced a $15 million investment to build a chrome manufacturing facility in Pennsylvania.
  • NOVONIX Limited, an Australia-based battery technology company, announced a $4.6 million investment to build a synthetic graphite manufacturing facility in Tennessee.
  • LGM Pharma announced a $6 million investment to expand its manufacturing facility in Rosenberg, Texas.
  • ViDARR, a defense optical equipment manufacturer, announced a $2.69 million investment to open a new facility in Virginia.
 
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That doesn’t even include the U.S. investments pledged by foreign countries:
  • United Arab Emirates committed to investing $1.4 trillion in the U.S. over the next decade.
  • Qatar committed to generating $1.2 trillion in an economic exchange between the two countries.
  • Japan announced a $1 trillion investment in the U.S.
  • Saudi Arabia committed investing $600 billion in the U.S. over the next four years.
  • Taiwan announced a pledge to boost its U.S.-based investment.
Tom
 
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Another very sad attempt at deflection. BTW, I have never posted any picture of an analog meter or a DVM online. I also never claimed that one could buy a printer that was 100% made in America. Those are YOUR words, not mine.

But since you can't help yourself, by all means, carry on...

Tom
 
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Did you not say that no one pays tariff "if they buy American!"?
I asked for a list of "American" printers (or anything you do fancy, or need), and you give me a list of investment plans.
Am I the deflector? In one post, you declare a success for collecting billions in tariffs, and in the next one, you claim that nobody is/should pay for it. Where do you get off?
 
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Eh, he is fixated on an American made printer for some reason. I guess he's too cheap to pay a tariff.....even though he can still buy a printer for that price. Whatever.

I can hear him now......"It's the POINT"!!!!

Tom
 
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