S.E.T. - I am obsessed now ....

Thank you Jack,

I will. Hopefully the 40.1's will be here soon. I heard there was a big delivery recently so I hope mine are in the mix, not that I need them. :)

I don't know if there can be improvement on the LM, it's the unknown I guess. I think there has to be something better, but I realize, not really. The LM is awesome and a friend is sending some 300B and 845 tubes to me so I am excited about that. For me, there seems to be enough power with the LM @ 24 wpc. The 50 wpc of the Cary has me thinking (especially considering the Harbeth are not efficient), I am not going to lie about that. Okay, I am a bit out of control but love this SET sound, hence the obsession. :satisfying:


Ha! Understatement of the week... ;) As long as I've known you on the interweb Joe, you've been out of control, but...., I gotta say mate, you do, do it with style!!!


Thats one hell of a typo Jérôme
 
Joe , Harbeth M40.1 + shindo CCQ ~~~!!!!! Just saying hehe

No.
I am sure that the 25 W of Joe's wonderful LM SET amp will be more than enough for the 40.1.
The CCQ's do not have the "SET magic factor" and make the set up of the 40.1 very difficult. The extension and impacts of the bass is incredible. At low volume, the sound is terrific. Super full and lifelike. At 85 dB of SPL, you are K.O. Just too "heavyweight".
I think I got the right set up with this combo, but I would not recommend anyone to try it except if you are only into low volume listening.


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Very soon we will need to start calling NOS "UOS" (Used Old Stock) because the true number of NOS tubes grows smaller every day and lots of tubes that are being sold as "NOS" are in reality used tubes. Some people are unable or unwilling to differentiate between truly NOS tubes and tubes that are formally known as NOS because they have in fact been used. And when you separate the junk out of the true NOS piles of tubes for sale, the pile grows even smaller.
True, but a good used tube will beat the snot out of some of the new "commercial" tubes.

Maybe I just feel this way as I have access to the barn. If it was just for Ebay, I would be in tears. LoL
 
True, but a good used tube will beat the snot out of some of the new "commercial" tubes.

Maybe I just feel this way as I have access to the barn. If it was just for Ebay, I would be in tears. LoL
.....
 
Ooooooooh baby !!!!

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Ha!

True :blush:

Ha! Understatement of the week... ;) As long as I've known you on the interweb Joe, you've been out of control, but...., I gotta say mate, you do, do it with style!!!



Thats one hell of a typo Jérôme
 

Double Dots.

Just snagged a Philips HOLLAND EL84 quad (hand selected) for a US buddy and a single Tungsram ECC40 (unique ECC40 tube, physically very different from all the rest and most prized for SQ and robustness)...unbeatable prices too. Returned a EH 5u4G for a very clean vintage RCA. The Barn is a magical place....I and my pals are happy, no doubt.

Mep is right though, quantities are limited.
 
I'm glad I was entertainment for you, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA - hell, what's funny?. ( got you ). If only I could laugh at something's instead of taking them so personal!, God help me. But it's because of Brothas like you and my wife, there are times when my rage is silenced.

Thanks for getting to know the real me, not just as someone whom tries to keep in real on forums, but someone whom actually talks to me on the phone, and understand I'm passionate about this stuff, yet am overly opinionated at times, but I mean no one any harm in merely speaking my mind, I'm just me - dig me as I am, or stand aside, it's that simple.

Peace little Brotha.

Mi Brutha! Its all good....at least last I checked.

One mans loot is endless.....another mans loot is capped. So let him who is endless, enjoy and indulge in his many toys through his revolving door, if he sees fit, while peasants like me only really indulge when the gear disappears and the music is bliss. Seems to be just there, real...and in front of me as I listen. Does it have front to back depth???? is the timber righteous???? Can I see in my minds eye the placement of each musician as he emotionally indulges into his craft? And does the speakers convey the emotion of the performance to my inner soul?...... If so then one knows its time to get off the merry go round....some call it a destination....yeah, thats me. You see, mi brutha, I don't want to just listen to boxes....or to merely see how that amp, or those speakers interpret the sax or violin , and if others do, well aint nothing wrong with that...that's their right to do so, but for me, over here in my life....I work really hard, I deal with networks remotely all across this wonderful nation of ours, so that means I deal with a lot of pissed off CEO's and engineers when those networks fail, because every second they are down, they lose money, so there is much stress at the end of my day. Then I have to come home and deal with the stresses of just living in this wonderful good old US of A. So for me, music is therapy more so than anything, other than my God.( Gotta give Him His.) Its my escape to another place where its stress free. Some cats use drugs and booze to get to the same place...shit, I gave that life up in 1989, so for me, I aint got time to be chasing a dream that doesn't exist, or even just chasing the pretties boxes put out by my favorite audio manufacturer, or even the latest pretties stuff on the market. Most of us who have been in this hobby from the 70's have been on such a path. So now with me, I've learned over the years, It not about chasing the latest and the greatest any more...at least not in my personal life. I want my shit to be, as we like to say it....righteous, or even better still...."CLICKING". And once it does, leave it alone.

For most people it looks like a two channel audio rig, but in reality, at least in MY REALITY...its really a machine that takes me to another place called BLISS. Yeah, You know what we do...and you know what we say, because we been saying it for years...."to each his own". We all have to live with our own choices no matter how muck-up and twisted they are....or, are not.

Just keeping it on the real....Peace mi brutha!
in a minute!
 
Mi Brutha! Its all good....at least last I checked.

One mans loot is endless.....another mans loot is capped. So let him who is endless, enjoy and indulge in his many toys through his revolving door, if he sees fit, while peasants like me only really indulge when the gear disappears and the music is bliss. Seems to be just there, real...and in front of me as I listen. Does it have front to back depth???? is the timber righteous???? Can I see in my minds eye the placement of each musician as he emotionally indulges into his craft? And does the speakers convey the emotion of the performance to my inner soul?...... If so then one knows its time to get off the merry go round....some call it a destination....yeah, thats me. You see, mi brutha, I don't want to just listen to boxes....or to merely see how that amp, or those speakers interpret the sax or violin , and if others do, well aint nothing wrong with that...that's their right to do so, but for me, over here in my life....I work really hard, I deal with networks remotely all across this wonderful nation of ours, so that means I deal with a lot of pissed off CEO's and engineers when those networks fail, because every second they are down, they lose money, so there is much stress at the end of my day. Then I have to come home and deal with the stresses of just living in this wonderful good old US of A. So for me, music is therapy more so than anything, other than my God.( Gotta give Him His.) Its my escape to another place where its stress free. Some cats use drugs and booze to get to the same place...shit, I gave that life up in 1989, so for me, I aint got time to be chasing a dream that doesn't exist, or even just chasing the pretties boxes put out by my favorite audio manufacturer, or even the latest pretties stuff on the market. Most of us who have been in this hobby from the 70's have been on such a path. So now with me, I've learned over the years, It not about chasing the latest and the greatest any more...at least not in my personal life. I want my shit to be, as we like to say it....righteous, or even better still...."CLICKING". And once it does, leave it alone.

For most people it looks like a two channel audio rig, but in reality, at least in MY REALITY...its really a machine that takes me to another place called BLISS. Yeah, You know what we do...and you know what we say, because we been saying it for years...."to each his own". We all have to live with our own choices no matter how muck-up and twisted they are....or, are not.

Just keeping it on the real....Peace mi brutha!
in a minute!

Good post.


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I don't know if there can be improvement on the LM, it's the unknown I guess. I think there has to be something better, but I realize, not really. The LM is awesome and a friend is sending some 300B and 845 tubes to me so I am excited about that. For me, there seems to be enough power with the LM @ 24 wpc. The 50 wpc of the Cary has me thinking (especially considering the Harbeth are not efficient), I am not going to lie about that. Okay, I am a bit out of control but love this SET sound, hence the obsession. :satisfying:

The Cary isn't really 50 watts. I wouldn't purchase a set thinking it is. 845 SET is a useful 25 watts, but you could look into the Nagras for some push-pull 845 fun :) They are wonderful amps.
 
The Cary isn't really 50 watts. I wouldn't purchase a set thinking it is. 845 SET is a useful 25 watts, but you could look into the Nagras for some push-pull 845 fun :) They are wonderful amps.

Curious - are you going by the Stereophile measurements of the original? The one that used an EL34 tube?

Mine definitely seem twice as ballsy as the LM219.


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I wonder how I would find out the true power of the Cary 805. Keith? Have you heard it?
 
50 watts is probably with grid current (A2 operation vs A1). You also can see the off the charts distortion on the charts at those levels anyways in that old Stereophile review. Realistically any 845 is going to run tops 25 watts running the tubes normally in Class A operation within the correct distortion profile. Most actually run less.

Mike- I'm not surprised your monoblocks have more thump than the LM. Separate power supplies are very beneficial in SET land.
 
Mi Brutha! Its all good....at least last I checked.

One mans loot is endless.....another mans loot is capped. So let him who is endless, enjoy and indulge in his many toys through his revolving door, if he sees fit, while peasants like me only really indulge when the gear disappears and the music is bliss. Seems to be just there, real...and in front of me as I listen. Does it have front to back depth???? is the timber righteous???? Can I see in my minds eye the placement of each musician as he emotionally indulges into his craft? And does the speakers convey the emotion of the performance to my inner soul?...... If so then one knows its time to get off the merry go round....some call it a destination....yeah, thats me. You see, mi brutha, I don't want to just listen to boxes....or to merely see how that amp, or those speakers interpret the sax or violin , and if others do, well aint nothing wrong with that...that's their right to do so, but for me, over here in my life....I work really hard, I deal with networks remotely all across this wonderful nation of ours, so that means I deal with a lot of pissed off CEO's and engineers when those networks fail, because every second they are down, they lose money, so there is much stress at the end of my day. Then I have to come home and deal with the stresses of just living in this wonderful good old US of A. So for me, music is therapy more so than anything, other than my God.( Gotta give Him His.) Its my escape to another place where its stress free. Some cats use drugs and booze to get to the same place...shit, I gave that life up in 1989, so for me, I aint got time to be chasing a dream that doesn't exist, or even just chasing the pretties boxes put out by my favorite audio manufacturer, or even the latest pretties stuff on the market. Most of us who have been in this hobby from the 70's have been on such a path. So now with me, I've learned over the years, It not about chasing the latest and the greatest any more...at least not in my personal life. I want my shit to be, as we like to say it....righteous, or even better still...."CLICKING". And once it does, leave it alone.

For most people it looks like a two channel audio rig, but in reality, at least in MY REALITY...its really a machine that takes me to another place called BLISS. Yeah, You know what we do...and you know what we say, because we been saying it for years...."to each his own". We all have to live with our own choices no matter how muck-up and twisted they are....or, are not.

Just keeping it on the real....Peace mi brutha!
in a minute!

Mi Brotha,

Man, I'm sorry for being late to the party ( slow response ) but glad to see you voice an opinion, as we've shared many concepts as they relate to this hobby, life in itself , music, as well as the ways of existence in the American states and how difficult it can be on us as a people - yet there are times, when like minded/spirited individuals find one another and create a bond based upon respect and admiration towards one another, and that's what Brotherhood or Brothers-In-Arms were meant to interact.


But as I've told you in the past, that's why I stopped writing as much two years ago, as I was merely enjoying my system to much to want to do anything other then listen, yet you felt I had shit that should be shared with others, and so I've tried to find a place that felt like home, and came over here as per your request, but it strikes me that why some are open-minded enough to understand what I/we are referring to as our systems " CLICKING ", others seem lost in the Land of Oz. And as you've said - to each his/her on.

But as I see it..........., if I'm able to save just one or two people from themselves and cause them to play attention to said behavior of as we put it " chasing boxes ", then I see it as a good deed, that puts me that much closer as righteous in the eyes of the Creator, and in life, and afterwards I'd merely like to be remembered as someone whom loved the shit out of his wife and kids, friends ( like the real ones that is - fake ass fuckers need not apply ) and always made time for fatherless children in out neighborhood, enough to show then the rules/importance of man made laws, basketball, schooling, and to believe in themselves, as I did.

But getting back on point, while having a nice expensive new toy is all fine and dandy, sometimes we've to ask ourselves what was wrong with last months or years model, that it had to be replaced?, in my mind it's about common logic ( sense ) and it's none of my business what other chose to do with their loot/funds/bread, but damn if I just had a portion of it............., I'd rather feed 5 - 18 hungry families, yet I know some don't see them in their hoods, but if one was willing to go a few miles over from where they live, it's obvious that many citizens of this supposedly free world are in fact starving/dying, yet they're always showing some little kids overseas whom don't have schooling - meds - clean water - food.............., shit truth be told, you can find those same living conditions here, once again maybe not in your immediate neighborhood - but within a stone throws reach if you will.

But since we are here to discuss Joe's newfound obsession - I'd say, let's get back to the task at hand.

But Brotha B, more then most, you know heart - passion - rage - likes/dislikes and in the end, I value real ones " friendships " " people " and can give a fuck less what others think of me, as they don't know these things, so I endure the BS!, and know what's the real, and what's fake, as both are easy to spot.

In a minute Black Man!, and I hope others don't take this as some sort of love fest!, or racial thing?, as I refer to lots of guys of different colors as my Brothas as well. It's a World Thang, not a limited mind thang............, expand your mind, as Lonnie Liston Smith once put it, and your ass will follow.

Peace.
 
Mi Brotha,

Man, I'm sorry for being late to the party ( slow response ) but glad to see you voice an opinion, as we've shared many concepts as they relate to this hobby, life in itself , music, as well as the ways of existence in the American states and how difficult it can be on us as a people - yet there are times, when like minded/spirited individuals find one another and create a bond based upon respect and admiration towards one another, and that's what Brotherhood or Brothers-In-Arms were meant to interact.


But as I've told you in the past, that's why I stopped writing as much two years ago, as I was merely enjoying my system to much to want to do anything other then listen, yet you felt I had shit that should be shared with others, and so I've tried to find a place that felt like home, and came over here as per your request, but it strikes me that why some are open-minded enough to understand what I/we are referring to as our systems " CLICKING ", others seem lost in the Land of Oz. And as you've said - to each his/her on.

But as I see it..........., if I'm able to save just one or two people from themselves and cause them to play attention to said behavior of as we put it " chasing boxes ", then I see it as a good deed, that puts me that much closer as righteous in the eyes of the Creator, and in life, and afterwards I'd merely like to be remembered as someone whom loved the shit out of his wife and kids, friends ( like the real ones that is - fake ass fuckers need not apply ) and always made time for fatherless children in out neighborhood, enough to show then the rules/importance of man made laws, basketball, schooling, and to believe in themselves, as I did.

But getting back on point, while having a nice expensive new toy is all fine and dandy, sometimes we've to ask ourselves what was wrong with last months or years model, that it had to be replaced?, in my mind it's about common logic ( sense ) and it's none of my business what other chose to do with their loot/funds/bread, but damn if I just had a portion of it............., I'd rather feed 5 - 18 hungry families, yet I know some don't see them in their hoods, but if one was willing to go a few miles over from where they live, it's obvious that many citizens of this supposedly free world are in fact starving/dying, yet they're always showing some little kids overseas whom don't have schooling - meds - clean water - food.............., shit truth be told, you can find those same living conditions here, once again maybe not in your immediate neighborhood - but within a stone throws reach if you will.

But since we are here to discuss Joe's newfound obsession - I'd say, let's get back to the task at hand.

But Brotha B, more then most, you know heart - passion - rage - likes/dislikes and in the end, I value real ones " friendships " " people " and can give a fuck less what others think of me, as they don't know these things, so I endure the BS!, and know what's the real, and what's fake, as both are easy to spot.

In a minute Black Man!, and I hope others don't take this as some sort of love fest!, or racial thing?, as I refer to lots of guys of different colors as my Brothas as well. It's a World Thang, not a limited mind thang............, expand your mind, as Lonnie Liston Smith once put it, and your ass will follow.

Peace.

And here's another one to chew on Joe, should you seriously feed the need for added power?:

http://www.mastersoundsas.it/Manuali_vecchi/Reference 845_V_3 inglese.pdf
 
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