dlb2
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Seems like the dog house would be a better option for you.
Room friendly speakers
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Hi Mike,
I guess if it were me and I was at this stage of the game, I'd start trying some pretty unconventional sh!% with treatments, traps and placement of same. Looks be damned in an attempt to stifle the hump in some way and figure it out. Moving traps and treatments are easier than 200lb gear items usually
E.g., is there any difference (good, bad or otherwise) if you lined up around the rear of the loudspeakers a trifold-room-divider-like array of bass traps? Perhaps setup three or so in an array starting 6" from the rear of the speakers and then check things at 12" out from rear, 18", 24", 30", etc. etc. Similarly, take the same traps and array them around one side or the other of the speakers in incremental steps then test. If you find some sort of combo that works then you can address the cosmetics after the fact.
Just thinking out loud here and maybe you've already done all manner of this type of exercise already? If so, my apologies for being late to the news.
I guess if it were me and I was at this stage of the game, I'd start trying some pretty unconventional sh!% with treatments, traps and placement of same. Looks be damned in an attempt to stifle the hump in some way and figure it out. Moving traps and treatments are easier than 200lb gear items usually
E.g., is there any difference (good, bad or otherwise) if you lined up around the rear of the loudspeakers a trifold-room-divider-like array of bass traps? Perhaps setup three or so in an array starting 6" from the rear of the speakers and then check things at 12" out from rear, 18", 24", 30", etc. etc. Similarly, take the same traps and array them around one side or the other of the speakers in incremental steps then test. If you find some sort of combo that works then you can address the cosmetics after the fact.
Just thinking out loud here and maybe you've already done all manner of this type of exercise already? If so, my apologies for being late to the news.
Jack
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Mike
At this point I might wait and see if the stuff Clayton is sending you makes any difference. If that completely different speaker design philosophy from his small speaker works in the room, then the bigger Luminas might work out, especially with the built in subs. Then again the Black Hole may help alleviate the problem. The more I look at the Luminas the better they look, and they are certainly priced competitively compared to other companies top models. And again just to me much better looking than his EP designs.
At this point I might wait and see if the stuff Clayton is sending you makes any difference. If that completely different speaker design philosophy from his small speaker works in the room, then the bigger Luminas might work out, especially with the built in subs. Then again the Black Hole may help alleviate the problem. The more I look at the Luminas the better they look, and they are certainly priced competitively compared to other companies top models. And again just to me much better looking than his EP designs.
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Hi Mike,
I guess if it were me and I was at this stage of the game, I'd start trying some pretty unconventional sh!% with treatments, traps and placement of same. Looks be damned in an attempt to stifle the hump in some way and figure it out. Moving traps and treatments are easier than 200lb gear items usually
E.g., is there any difference (good, bad or otherwise) if you lined up around the rear of the loudspeakers a trifold-room-divider-like array of bass traps? Perhaps setup three or so in an array starting 6" from the rear of the speakers and then check things at 12" out from rear, 18", 24", 30", etc. etc. Similarly, take the same traps and array them around one side or the other of the speakers in incremental steps then test. If you find some sort of combo that works then you can address the cosmetics after the fact.
Just thinking out loud here and maybe you've already done all manner of this type of exercise already? If so, my apologies for being late to the news.
I certainly haven't tried everything, but I think the problem is related to the average height of my roof (I say average because it is sloped) which is a 2:1 multiple of the room width. That creates the 73hz node which rings for a very long time to boot. I'm going to try the spacial black box, Helmholz Resonator tuned to 73hz and a few other things.
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I am. I have a few other ideas in mind too.
When Ian (MadFloyd) visited, he got to hear the room without DSP.
CPP
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veindoc
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Just curious if the new Devialet with SAM processing(pending for Alexia model) might help to offset with processing what is occurring in your room. The newer 400 or 800 even offers greater power in a true mono yet compact design. I also believe you previously thought their products were quite god. Many at Munich 2014 raved about this new SAM potential.
NIck
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Nick - I have solved 90-95% of the room problem with my Alexia's. But yes, I think SAM would be fun to try. That being said, the Devialet has some obstacles. It is an integrated for one, meaning, sources at the back of the room present problems....unless one wants to have a 35 foot speaker cable run! It forces an A-D-A conversion of all analog sources - like vinyl. It forces you to use the Devialet DAC which does not have DSD. You can use a DSD capable DAC, but that means A-D-A again.
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veindoc
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understood. Did your DSpeaker2.0 have mild or significant affect on your system in that room? Any luck with C. Shaws products. Enjoy the long weekend
Nick
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Nick that is something I hope Mike addresses. I was wondering if DSpeaker 2.0 had any effect and if say something like the DIRAC software would be of benefit
Chris
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The DSP giveth and the DSP taketh away.
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CPP
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It fixed the 73hz problem, but ultimately, I determined, it robbed the music of life.
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highEndguy
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Lots of work today !!
Whole ARC/MC gear
And Wilson Audio for speakers
Whole ARC/MC gear
And Wilson Audio for speakers
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Audioseduction
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Not surprised. Every time I heard a system with a DSP in the chain it was lifeless and non-engaging to me.
highEndguy
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highEndguy
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Testing the gear
