Reviewer Rooms

Paul said:
Here you go. Hope Jim wouldn't mind to share these. :).

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That is a beautiful room and set-up. I do prefer the photo in Post #169 where the laptop is not hanging off the system like fuzzy dice from a Porche's mirror. :lol:
 
bonzo said:
Jim, do the Tannoys layer behind when pulled further in? Asking because in many set ups they are close to the wall, like horns
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Yes, as will horns when set-up properly.

In fact, that aspect is one of the most discussed/appreciated by visitors here for RoomPlay Reference sessions.
 
kzhtoo said:
I don't think I trashed reviewers' rooms and systems, generally. But I was incredulous upon seeing the pics at the start of this thread. And below is my non-dedicated listening room.

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Nice system and thanks for providing a picture. As for having a non-dedicated room, I think that puts you in with the majority of audiophiles. I have been fortunate to have a dedicated stereo room except for a few interruptions since the early 1980s. My current room is the best room I have ever had because not only does it sound good, it is acoustically isolated from the rest of my house. No matter how loud the music is in my room, once you walk up the stairs and open the door into the main part of the house and close the door, you can't hear my system playing. For me that's priceless.

I plan on moving soon and I'm apprehensive of what type of room I will have in the next house. I'm also confident that whoever buys my house will not be using my stereo room as another stereo room and whoever buys my house will have no idea how special that room was to me.
 
This for Jim...

Many WASPed speaker setup have them fairly deep in the corners vs the 1/3 into the room 'guidance'. I assume you've worked with several rooms with Wilson speakers. Has there been anything consistantly you've done in such rooms? (Assuming the speakers were originally setup by a skilled Wilson rep? (Allowing for the fact there are likely some less than skilled wilson reps.)
 
Bobvin said:
This for Jim...

Many WASPed speaker setup have them fairly deep in the corners vs the 1/3 into the room 'guidance'. I assume you've worked with several rooms with Wilson speakers. Has there been anything consistently you've done in such rooms? (Assuming the speakers were originally setup by a skilled Wilson rep? (Allowing for the fact there are likely some less than skilled wilson reps.)
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Bob,

Several thoughts...

When I was recording, I would never have located any instrumentalist or vocalist so deep into the corners or so near the front wall. Their sound would be definitely colored. So I am unsure why anyone would want to place a loudspeaker in such a compromised position.

I mostly disagree that there is a workable "rule of thirds"...

I have voiced dozens of rooms with Wilson speakers across North America. And yes, a number of them were setup by a "qualified dealer" (whatever that means these days).

If clients later changed to a different Wilson model, AFAIK, 100% asked me to return, not the dealer. That is why I am so jazzed that Bill Peugh has joined Wilson Audio. He can make a difference for the better for Wilson owners in this area.

As always, locating the best seating position must come first. That vital first step addresses most of the Dynamics issues (finding where the bass is smoothest in the room, with reduced peaks & dips).

Then, I want to voice the system to the seating position. To enhance the Presence & Tone, the speakers will need to be pulled forward, as well as adjusting separation & toe.

This is all about the best acoustic wave launch into the room as well as receiving it as best as possible at the listening seat.

In a recent Quarter Notes newsletter, I wrote about the importance of this and how it completely overrides employing "audiophile feet" on speakers that are placed incorrectly in the room.

The best acoustic wave launch - even if the speakers are on furniture sliders (because there is a WAF factor to consider - you need to slide them back out of the way when not listening seriously) will easily SWAMP the performance of great loudspeakers in less than optimum positions, no matter how much you spend on components, cables & other tweaks.

As always, IMO...
 
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There is another way. I don't personally care for or see the need for speakers to be so far out into the room. The main reason is to avoid 1/4 wavelength cancellation, that some people refer to as "room suck-out". I just don't understand using really good speakers as monitors. Some room interaction can be a very good thing for presence and ambiance. Not to mention the WAF situation!

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Jim Smith said:
Yep. 7 1/2' from back center of speaker to front wall.
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I guess now it would be interesting to know the length, width and height of your room and
how far your listening position is from the front of your speakers.
 
drb968 said:
There is another way. I don't personally care for or see the need for speakers to be so far out into the room. The main reason is to avoid 1/4 wavelength cancellation, that some people refer to as "room suck-out". I just don't understand using really good speakers as monitors. Some room interaction can be a very good thing for presence and ambiance. Not to mention the WAF situation!
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Nice room!

Agreed, there is always another way. However, I don't think any of my hundreds of clients would go back to a much less musically involving sound.

If you haven't experienced it, there is no way to bridge our opinion gap, so no need to argue our positions further.

BTW, I especially like your choice of components - IME, a great foundation for musically involving sound, once the setup is complete. :)
 
Much less musically involving sound? Interesting.

This last NY Audio show Jana Dagdagan & Ken Micallef of Stereophile thought the Resolution Acoustics treated room (Sadarni/Linear Tube Audio) was the best sounding room at the show.

PF Audio Oasis awards RMAF 2015 and Newport 2016

AV Showrooms Gold awards CAF 2016 and NY 2016

Enjoy the Music Best Sound RMAF 2015

Probably coming this week from Stereophile will be an article by a music reviewer on his room. One thing I require is very articulate bass. Plenty of it, but tight, fast and well defined. No boom or one note.

Please also check the reviews: https://www.resolutionacoustics.com/publications
 
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This is the reviewer's room I did. He regularly attends symphonic and opera. I believe he can hear a frog drop a deuce at 100 yards!
 
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