Reviewer Rooms

Mike,

Thanks for those photos!

Is there a pic that shows the seating position from the speakers' perspective that shows how far from the back wall the chair is?

Thanks!
 
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Here's Jim's room.



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Don't have to hear it to know this setup is seriously lacking in delivery of Beer , Wine and Cheese -.
 
So a question for Jim (or Mike); how high can the reflective "stuff" between the speakers be? Some number of inches (or feet) below the tweeters? Or are there too many other considerations for a general answer?
 
So a question for Jim (or Mike); how high can the reflective "stuff" between the speakers be? Some number of inches (or feet) below the tweeters? Or are there too many other considerations for a general answer?

Ideally, nothing between the speakers is best. Of course, low profile amps are fine. For me, I try to keep everything below midrange and tweeter height. Max two shelves. Multiple two shelf racks vs one or two big honker racks.

In a perfect world, gear is off to the sides or back.


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I turned the volume all the way up on my computer and I still can't hear any sound coming out of those pictures! :D


I turned the volume all the way DOWN on my computer to avoid the boom of incoming Missiles after reading Jim's comments:disbelief:!

Bruce
 
Ideally, nothing between the speakers is best. Of course, low profile amps are fine. For me, I try to keep everything below midrange and tweeter height. Max two shelves. Multiple two shelf racks vs one or two big honker racks.

In a perfect world, gear is off to the sides or back.


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And yet the majority of rooms with pictures on the Internet, including Jim's, do have at least some if not all the gear between the speakers. Speaking only from my own experience, I get better sound with the gear between the speakers than on the side wall (of course, I have a pretty minimalist system). There are many plausible explanations why this might be so and I haven't tried to track them down. It has ​led me to experiment much more with different types and amounts of room treatment on the front wall and between the speakers, all of which has very noticeable effects on the stereo image
 
Indeed that is a superb room and user friendly setup--as befitting the owner-Kudos!

I've long since forgiven Jim for inflicting Avantgarde on us!:woot:but I would offer a word of caution---

I'd keep an eye on that Wandering Jew --you may wake up one day and find it's taken over the House!

I notice its already consumed the RR-777's!:derf:

BruceD
 
According to a previous post of Jim's, the listening position is the MOST important in terms of placement. Is there a photo that shows the seating position for this room?

Also, for me it has relatively little to do with the brand or model of components (but all too often, their location), and everything to do with proper placement - first - of the listening seat, and second - of the speakers), including separation and toe - both major contributors to Presence & Tone when done right.

IMO, of course... :rolleyes:
 
I think it's fair to ask that if you feel compelled to trash reviewers' rooms and systems that you should list the gear that makes up your system and post detailed pictures of your room if you haven't already done so. Otherwise, people can draw their own conclusions as to why you wouldn't be willing to do that. If you like to hold your nose up in the air as you throw stones, it's time to go open kimono.

I don't think I trashed reviewers' rooms and systems, generally. But I was incredulous upon seeing the pics at the start of this thread. And below is my non-dedicated listening room.

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Jim, do the Tannoys layer behind when pulled further in? Asking because in many set ups they are close to the wall, like horns
 
And yet the majority of rooms with pictures on the Internet, including Jim's, do have at least some if not all the gear between the speakers. Speaking only from my own experience, I get better sound with the gear between the speakers than on the side wall (of course, I have a pretty minimalist system). There are many plausible explanations why this might be so and I haven't tried to track them down. It has ​led me to experiment much more with different types and amounts of room treatment on the front wall and between the speakers, all of which has very noticeable effects on the stereo image

Yes, amps and low profile items are unlikely to cause any negative diffusion like a big honking stand. If you think of sound waves like light, it helps to imagine what is ok between the speakers and what may not be helping.
 
Yes, amps and low profile items are unlikely to cause any negative diffusion like a big honking stand. If you think of sound waves like light, it helps to imagine what is ok between the speakers and what may not be helping.

Not sure why you didn't show your own excellent sounding Jim Smith tuned room. It was magical when I heard it.

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Thanks Chris. I actually laid the R2R on its back to lower the stuff at the front of the room.
 
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