Received 2nd Covid shot today

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BlueFox said:
I don't believe that LSD has been approved for treating Covid. However, beer and 'medical' marijuana is effective for any issue from the Covid vaccination.
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It wasn’t for covid at all , it was for migraines, however deferent countries has deferent approach to tests medical treatment and tests


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SuperDave said:
When my Dad got Covid, he contacted his GP and was set up with an Eli Lilly antibody treatment like Regeneron, same with my Mom. It was never offered, it seemed it had to be requested. Everyone I know that had antibody treatments, handled the virus without issue. FYI, after receiving antibody treatments, you are disqualified from the vaccines for 90 days. I assume its because of built up immunity and not a reaction between antibodies and vaccine.

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No, it is because of a possible neutralizing of the vaccine (encoded for) protein by the MAb.
 
dminches said:
Those numbers are worldwide. You compared them to US COVID deaths. Please don't try to make a point by distorting the facts.

In 2019 542 people in the US died from TB. In 1 year 560k people in the US died from COVID. The 2 diseases are not even close when it comes to transmissibility.

Your comparison of TB vs COVID has no relevance and I don't understand why that isn't completely obvious.
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Although it was from TB research that the (reduced transmissibility) benefit of putting the mask on the patient rather than the health care provide was learned
 
no32 said:
It wasn’t for covid at all , it was for migraines, however deferent countries has deferent approach to tests medical treatment and tests


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LSD, psilocybin, MDMA - have all shown results in treating issues that have otherwise baffled modern medicine. MDMA was widely used in psycho-therapeutic therapy until it was banned, and some rogue doctors continued to use it after.

Psilocybin & MDMA have worked wonders with PTSD. LSD with depression.

I’ve taken all of the above many-many times and feel I’m better for it.

It’s a shame that so many wonderful chemicals, and natural substances (cannabis) have been demonized and vilified as something miscreants or weirdos take part in.


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Ketamine and esketamine are now well accepted treatments for any number of conditions both common (depression) and uncommon (resistant status epilepticus). It’s true they were already Schedule III and therefore logistically easier to use and research than LSD (Schedule I); “microdose” LSD has had a little bit of poor-ish quality but promising research suggesting efficacy for depression and migraine.
 
BlueFox said:
As an audiophile my hearing is important to me. Research is now showing that Covid might cause tinnitus (ringing in the ear). One more reason to get vaccinated. So far, no negative effects for me from the Pfizer vaccine.

Scientists reveal that tinnitus is possible COVID-19 symptom
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Heck I've had tinnitus since the late to early 80's. My 2nd dose was 3/17. NO additional; ringing, now if would change the freq to an even higher freq that would be ok with me. :D
 
Staples will laminate your Vac card for free. Technically, I believe it is called a CDC card.

Someone who has Tinnitus posted on an audio forum he tried CBD oil and had one of the best listening sessions in years. He said it didn't cure the Tinnitus but really helped with it while it was in affect.
 
Shadowfax said:
COVID-19, yes/maybe but what about Covid 20, 21, 22 and all variants? You realize it means another injection (booster) for each or in batches. C19 can also mutate in ones body so the virus can walk right past what the mRNA injection is doing by only attacking a single spike protein where our bodies natural immune system does not look for specifics, it attacks anything and everything that does not belong if it is in proper working order.

Also, those injected can still get or have Covid, they will just be asymptomatic and spreaders unless it mutates. Are they being Retested for Cases? Or does the chart exclude them just because they took the injections?
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I'm not going to address your non-sequitur about immunology as this would involve a graduate course molecular immunology, but I'll speak to a couple points:

With respect to people vaccinated being asymptomatic spreaders, the answer is "no" for 99.5% of people vaccinated. If you read the NEJM journal article, it demonstrated with statistical rigor that the no. of people vaccinated that subsequently became infected was only 0.05%. If you're not infected, you can't be an asympomatic spreader.

I haven't seen any sequences that would define a new, genetically-curated SARS-CoV type from SPHERES* or the nor the Genomics UK consortium that would define a COVID-20, COVID-21 , yet. If you do, please forward as I am tracking the sequencing of new variants.

I fully expect there will be round of booster vaccinations that will become available later in 2021 comprised of a multivalent vaccine for the UK, SA, NY, and CA variants. If so, that will be great, as will it signifcantly curtail the spread of existing and origination of yet new variants. If so, I'll get that vaccine as well. The process is easy and fast.

This is virtually no different than the multivalent influenza vaccines that are administered yearly.

Bottom-line? Vaccines work. This is why you are not at risk for getting smallpox or polio. Those diseases have been effectively eradicated by vaccines.

*– CDC consortium for SARS-CoV-2 Sequencing for Public Health Emergency Response, Epidemiology and Surveillance
 
BlueFox said:
As an audiophile my hearing is important to me. Research is now showing that Covid might cause tinnitus (ringing in the ear). One more reason to get vaccinated. So far, no negative effects for me from the Pfizer vaccine.

Scientists reveal that tinnitus is possible COVID-19 symptom
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Let's be sure we don't equate correlation with causation. If one observes that the no. of umbrella sales spikes sharply one day in NYC, and we also see a concomitant increase in auto accidents in NYC on that day, while the two observations can be closely correlated, this does not mean that umbrellas caused auto accidents. Correlation does not explain that the reason that both spiked sharply was because it rained that day in NYC.
 
rbbert said:
Which could serve as a reminder of the “evils” of capitalism and US imperialism. It would be nice to think we as a nation may have progressed beyond that?
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Wow, lucky you guys. Europe is sooo behind. My partents are 67 and 65, and only father got his first shot last week. My mother has her first in 2 weeks. I'm 45, so mine is probably like 3-6 months away.

Meanwhile, we got 35k cases today in Poland. With 10x less population than the US. So imagine having 350k cases in the US today. They told us we are expected to see the #s in the high 50s in the coming 2 weeks. Scary #s.

Stay safe everyone.
 
i'm 69 and got my first shot yesterday, my second one is scheduled for April 15th. i had an appointment for last week, but work needs caused me to miss it. getting an appointment, assuming you qualify, is mostly just a matter of waiting on the phone. lots of places to get it done.

my wife (who is older than me) is waiting to see if i die before she gets her shot.
 
Florida will lower the age for coronavirus vaccination to 40 on Monday, then to all residents 18 and older a week later.

Florida is expected to see its population increase by an average of more than 303,000 residents a year and is forecast to have 23.1 million people in April 2025,
 
Puma Cat said:
I'm not going to address your non-sequitur about immunology as this would involve a graduate course molecular immunology, but I'll speak to a couple points:

With respect to people vaccinated being asymptomatic spreaders, the answer is "no" for 99.5% of people vaccinated. If you read the NEJM journal article, it demonstrated with statistical rigor that the no. of people vaccinated that subsequently became infected was only 0.05%. If you're not infected, you can't be an asympomatic spreader.

I haven't seen any sequences that would define a new, genetically-curated SARS-CoV type from SPHERES* or the nor the Genomics UK consortium that would define a COVID-20, COVID-21 , yet. If you do, please forward as I am tracking the sequencing of new variants.

I fully expect there will be round of booster vaccinations that will become available later in 2021 comprised of a multivalent vaccine for the UK, SA, NY, and CA variants. If so, that will be great, as will it signifcantly curtail the spread of existing and origination of yet new variants. If so, I'll get that vaccine as well. The process is easy and fast.

This is virtually no different than the multivalent influenza vaccines that are administered yearly.

Bottom-line? Vaccines work. This is why you are not at risk for getting smallpox or polio. Those diseases have been effectively eradicated by vaccines.

*– CDC consortium for SARS-CoV-2 Sequencing for Public Health Emergency Response, Epidemiology and Surveillance
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Puma Cat said:
Let's be sure we don't equate correlation with causation. If one observes that the no. of umbrella sales spikes sharply one day in NYC, and we also see a concomitant increase in auto accidents in NYC on that day, while the two observations can be closely correlated, this does not mean that umbrellas caused auto accidents. Correlation does not explain that the reason that both spiked sharply was because it rained that day in NYC.
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just to be clear, the possible tinnitus correlation is with the disease, not the vaccination. As Bud noted, it might be an incentive for a fence-sitting audiophile to take the plunge (I love mixing metaphors)
 
Puma Cat said:
I'm not going to address your non-sequitur about immunology as this would involve a graduate course molecular immunology, but I'll speak to a couple points:

With respect to people vaccinated being asymptomatic spreaders, the answer is "no" for 99.5% of people vaccinated. If you read the NEJM journal article, it demonstrated with statistical rigor that the no. of people vaccinated that subsequently became infected was only 0.05%. If you're not infected, you can't be an asympomatic spreader.

I haven't seen any sequences that would define a new, genetically-curated SARS-CoV type from SPHERES* or the nor the Genomics UK consortium that would define a COVID-20, COVID-21 , yet. If you do, please forward as I am tracking the sequencing of new variants.

I fully expect there will be round of booster vaccinations that will become available later in 2021 comprised of a multivalent vaccine for the UK, SA, NY, and CA variants. If so, that will be great, as will it signifcantly curtail the spread of existing and origination of yet new variants. If so, I'll get that vaccine as well. The process is easy and fast.

This is virtually no different than the multivalent influenza vaccines that are administered yearly.

Bottom-line? Vaccines work. This is why you are not at risk for getting smallpox or polio. Those diseases have been effectively eradicated by vaccines.

*– CDC consortium for SARS-CoV-2 Sequencing for Public Health Emergency Response, Epidemiology and Surveillance
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Two points worth noting here. First is that the currently available seasonal influenza vaccines are nowhere near as effective as the COVID vaccines: their efficacy across all age groups is never better than 60-70%, for people over 50 usually is around 20-25%, and typically about 15% (or less) for those over 65 (these are CDC estimates, reviewable by year on its website). Second is that although the incidence of COVID infection in fully vaccinated individuals (in the UT study) was only 0.05%, the incidence in the unvaccinated was only 2.6%. So yes, an impressive 50-fold reduction, but this translates to about a 2% rate of vaccine "failure" (i.e., preventing infection), or a 2% rate of possible infection and spread from a fully vaccinated person; this is consistent with the clinical trials for both Moderna and Pfizer vaccines conducted prior to the EUA. NB: this is only of relevance if there is a large pool of unvaccinated, susceptible people to whom it might be spread; if the pool of susceptibles is small enough, random individuals might get infected and sick, but there will not be an epidemic.

Also, not all vaccines work well; as noted, flu vaccines are relatively poor performers, as is the original shingles vaccine (Zostrix) and the older, no longer available pertussis vaccine.
 
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