Received 2nd Covid shot today

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Two points worth noting here. First is that the currently available seasonal influenza vaccines are nowhere near as effective as the COVID vaccines: their efficacy across all age groups is never better than 60-70%, for people over 50 usually is around 20-25%, and typically about 15% (or less) for those over 65 (these are CDC estimates, reviewable by year on its website). Second is that although the incidence of COVID infection in fully vaccinated individuals (in the UT study) was only 0.05%, the incidence in the unvaccinated was only 2.6%. So yes, an impressive 50-fold reduction, but this translates to about a 2% rate of vaccine "failure" (i.e., preventing infection), or a 2% rate of possible infection and spread from a fully vaccinated person; this is consistent with the clinical trials for both Moderna and Pfizer vaccines conducted prior to the EUA. NB: this is only of relevance if there is a large pool of unvaccinated, susceptible people to whom it might be spread; if the pool of susceptibles is small enough, random individuals might get infected and sick, but there will not be an epidemic.

Also, not all vaccines work well; as noted, flu vaccines are relatively poor performers, as is the original shingles vaccine (Zostrix) and the older, no longer available pertussis vaccine.

One other relevant point is although flu vaccine efficacy is 60-70%, it could vastly reduce the severity of the flu if you do catch it. My wife and I both got the flu shot last year, but she fell sick with flu like symptoms just a few weeks ago. She took a rapid covid test right away and it came back negative. So we chalked it off as flu and she somehow got better within one day, which really surprised me.
 
Not necessarily influenza. There are several commonly circulating virus families which can cause flu-like symptoms, that typically last less long than the 7-10 days of an influenza infection. And vaccine efficacy is 60-70% only among 18-34 year olds; overall, it’s closer to 30-40%, and in some years under 20%.
 
I'm sure Bud won't like this,and I can get any of the vaccines, but I'm going to wait.

Vaccine Information – America's Frontline Doctors
Remember that this is a group of doctors whose primary purpose is to protect their financial security. An apparent secondary goal is simply to be anti-establishment; after years of criticizing use of antibiotics for purposes with solid evidentiary support, the group strongly supported widespread use of hydroxychloroquine for all patients sick from COVID19. One could draw the conclusion that they support any medical practice which has no evidence for effectiveness, and oppose those with good evidentiary support.
 
How about this: if you’re not getting vaccinated, please stay out of the thread. Those who have made this decision to get vaccinated can share their stories.



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Might want to read the conclusions section to clearly understand your role as the vaccine recipient and so there are no disillusions. http://www.uphs.upenn.edu/cep/COVID/mRNA vaccine review final.pdf

From that report, so as to clarify the conclusion that 5-10% people experienced "serious" side effects, "Serious events, defined as events that temporarily interfered with subjects’ everyday activities, were reported by approximately 5 to 10 percent of study subjects. These too resolved within one or two days."
 
My wife and I went to the FEMA site in Tampa which is on Waters Avenue. They give you a choice of the Pfizer or J&J. We both chose the J&J for multiple reasons, it's a personal choice so I will leave it at that. The site is run by the military and it was organized, fast and they double and triple checked our ID's and our choice of vaccines. We were in and out in about 40 minutes which included a 15 minute waiting period after we received our shots. We had zero side effects. BTW, You just drive in to the FEMA sites as there are no reservations required. Thx for reading.
 
My wife and I went to the FEMA site in Tampa which is on Waters Avenue. They give you a choice of the Pfizer or J&J. We both chose the J&J for multiple reasons, it's a personal choice so I will leave it at that. The site is run by the military and it was organized, fast and they double and triple checked our ID's and our choice of vaccines. We were in and out in about 40 minutes which included a 15 minute waiting period after we received our shots. We had zero side effects. BTW, You just drive in to the FEMA sites as there are no reservations required. Thx for reading.

Florida has done a great job with the vaccines. Wish we had Governor like DeSantis here in HI.

Here's our results to Date:

Maui County continues to have the smallest percentage of its population vaccinated compared to other counties in the state. Maui’s first dose rate of 24.2 percent is well behind Kauaʻi, which leads the state at 35.0 percent, 24.6 percent on Hawaiʻi Island and 24.2 percent on Oʻahu. For second doses, Kauaʻi is at 21.2 percent followed by Oʻahu at 14.4 percent, Hawaiʻi Island at 13.9 percent and Maui at 11.0 percent.
 
I'm sure Bud won't like this,and I can get any of the vaccines, but I'm going to wait.

Vaccine Information – America's Frontline Doctors

There's something wrong with the info coming out of this group and its founder.
I wouldn't rely anything remotely close with my life and my family's life and my friends there.
That's my honest opinion.

I'll take the first vaccine coming my way, next month for me where I live for my age group.
 
Remember that this is a group of doctors whose primary purpose is to protect their financial security. An apparent secondary goal is simply to be anti-establishment; after years of criticizing use of antibiotics for purposes with solid evidentiary support, the group strongly supported widespread use of hydroxychloroquine for all patients sick from COVID19. One could draw the conclusion that they support any medical practice which has no evidence for effectiveness, and oppose those with good evidentiary support.

 
There's something wrong with the info coming out of this group and its founder.
I wouldn't rely anything remotely close with my life and my family's life and my friends there.
That's my honest opinion.

I'll take the first vaccine coming my way, next month for me where I live for my age group.

No pharmaceutical product has ever been without risks. Therefore, it should be up to each individual how they want to take care of their health.
 
Florida has done a great job with the vaccines. Wish we had Governor like DeSantis here in HI.

Here's our results to Date:

Maui County continues to have the smallest percentage of its population vaccinated compared to other counties in the state. Maui’s first dose rate of 24.2 percent is well behind Kauaʻi, which leads the state at 35.0 percent, 24.6 percent on Hawaiʻi Island and 24.2 percent on Oʻahu. For second doses, Kauaʻi is at 21.2 percent followed by Oʻahu at 14.4 percent, Hawaiʻi Island at 13.9 percent and Maui at 11.0 percent.
Governor DeSantis was against FEMA coming into Florida and helping administer the vaccine. His donors and certain white/rich zipcodes got the vaccine first. Just sayin'.
 
Governor DeSantis was against FEMA coming into Florida and helping administer the vaccine. His donors and certain white/rich zipcodes got the vaccine first. Just sayin'.

I was just trying to pay your State a compliment, but I’d still take DeSantis over Ige.

Just last week, they had to throw away 1,386 doses of the Pfizer vaccine, because someone in Ige’s state run healthcare system left the freezer door open.
 
Good Covid news today in California. Today's paper (3/27/21) has an article stating that new Covid patients in CA hospitals are below when state first started recording cases a year ago. Hopefully it will stay low, and get even better, as more people are vaccinated.

California's COVID hospitalizations hit new low, but Michigan raises alarm

I think Gov. Newsom has done a great job in California. He was the first to shut down the state thereby saving countless lives. He has brought in good people to oversee the shut downs and the roll out of the vaccines. For his troubles, he will undoubtedly be re-called--
 
My office manager called this morning and told me our accountant tested positive for Covid. Her friend tested positive so she took the test Friday evening and received her results this morning. Now we are scrambling trying to get everyone (there are 12 of us) tested today and/or tomorrow so we can man our jobs and meet our deadlines. My office and field work is completely shut down until each employee can produce a negative test. Mine is at 11:30am today at the CVS in Springhill. This is the second time this has happened to us as some don't believe in masks and social distancing. Our office has a strict mask protocol along with a daily cleaning and wiping down routine so hopefully it didn't go any further. As mentioned before I received the vaccine 2 weeks ago, it takes a month to be at full strength. Be careful out there.
 
My office manager called this morning and told me our accountant tested positive for Covid. Her friend tested positive so she took the test Friday evening and received her results this morning. Now we are scrambling trying to get everyone (there are 12 of us) tested today and/or tomorrow so we can man our jobs and meet our deadlines. My office and field work is completely shut down until each employee can produce a negative test. Mine is at 11:30am today at the CVS in Springhill. This is the second time this has happened to us as some don't believe in masks and social distancing. Our office has a strict mask protocol along with a daily cleaning and wiping down routine so hopefully it didn't go any further. As mentioned before I received the vaccine 2 weeks ago, it takes a month to be at full strength. Be careful out there.

Not believing in masks isn’t like not believing in god or not believing in marriage. It’s like saying I don’t believe in drinking water. It takes a special kind of lunacy and idiocy.
 
Not believing in masks isn’t like not believing in god or not believing in marriage. It’s like saying I don’t believe in drinking water. It takes a special kind of lunacy and idiocy.

I put a mask in my back pocket in the morning and go about my day. No big deal.
 
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