PRE-WELCOME to some folks from another forum

JohnVF said:
Count me in as one of the refugees that jumped into Rob's lifeboat. I'm...well I'm JohnVF there, too. A former moderator and current co-member of the year at the place...resigning my duties there, I suppose. Sad what kinds of absurd hypocrisy can do to take the fun out of a forum.

Haven't so much left there as I have just stopped posting from being tired of the hypocrisy. "We're not snobs except that we hate and mock everybody who doesn't do things like we do". Umm..ok. That's what a snob is.
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Great summary John..its a shame too because THAT forum has a great NICHE in terms of legacy and DIY ...but there is a certain vocal percentage that just don't LISTEN or add value. You ask for specific cart advice and they tell you that your turntable sucks...or always looking for a negative..

Anyway, so glad you (and some others you probably know well) are in the lifeboat...Its more like a yacht...LOL
 
ohbythebay said:
Great summary John..its a shame too because THAT forum has a great NICHE in terms of legacy and DIY ...but there is a certain vocal percentage that just don't LISTEN or add value. You ask for specific cart advice and they tell you that your turntable sucks...or always looking for a negative..

Anyway, so glad you (and some others you probably know well) are in the lifeboat...Its more like a yacht...LOL
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Nobody but nobody likes to have their gear knocked down there is a reason why whe buy that gear, it may not be to everybody's standard BUT in life you don't always buy what you WANT you buy what you can AFFORD and for the space that you have, you also have the same rights as the ones that can afford the best.
 
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MrAcoustat said:
Nobody but nobody likes to have their gear knocked down there is a reason why whe buy that gear, it may not be to everybody's standard BUT in life you don't always buy what you WANT you buy what you can AFFORD and for the space that you have, you also have the same rights as the ones that can afford the best.
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Big plus one. Just buy music and enjoy.
 
MrAcoustat said:
Nobody but nobody likes to have their gear knocked down there is a reason why whe buy that gear, it may not be to everybody's standard BUT in life you don't always buy what you WANT you buy what you can AFFORD and for the space that you have, you also have the same rights as the ones that can afford the best.
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It was an interesting case at the place we're referring to. In that there seemed to be the opposite attitude of a lot of places. As in, you were only allowed to spend a certain amount without getting mocked in not so subtle ways, and even when you were thrifty enough, it had to be towards the agreed upon type/brands/era of gear. It was about as clear of an example of an information silo I have seen on the internet. Actively keeping minds closed to anything but the agreed upon way of doing things and shouting down any who disagreed of dared try something different, whether more expensive or a cheaper item then the agreed upon bar-setting choice. So many audio forums have their bias(es), of course, this was just another one. Its now almost entirely a vintage site, though it has a great wealth of DIY expertise if you can get past the eat-the-rich attitude prevalent in nearly every thread. And a lot of good people being swamped by some really arrogant people who think they're not snobbish at all because their snobbery is targeted at a different group, or rather, an imagined group (the haughty smoking-jacket-clad audiophile that they've never actually met but who makes a nice straw man to some curious positions ...well you get the point).

I don't write this to bring negativity here. I'm just very frustrated...I gave a LOT of my time and energy to that place, to the tune of nearly 30,000 posts and several review threads and its not with any glee that I walk away from it.
 
I'm happy to be here Mike. While I don't have the time anymore to devote what I gave to my previous audio-home, I do hope to help out where I can here with reviews of gear and whatnot. I'm lucky to live in a great audio-town here, where I'm decently connected with many of the players on the ground. It equates to a lot of good times listening to different types of gear, from current to classic. I have to say, though, that many of the systems in use hear blow away much of what I've heard. There's a lot of great gear in use by members here that I'm really very curious about.
 
JohnVF said:
I'm happy to be here Mike. While I don't have the time anymore to devote what I gave to my previous audio-home, I do hope to help out where I can here with reviews of gear and whatnot. I'm lucky to live in a great audio-town here, where I'm decently connected with many of the players on the ground. It equates to a lot of good times listening to different types of gear, from current to classic. I have to say, though, that many of the systems in use hear blow away much of what I've heard. There's a lot of great gear in use by members here that I'm really very curious about.
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Don't let some of our insane spending habits influence you. We are all in this for the love of music first and foremost.
 
JohnVF said:
Count me in as one of the refugees that jumped into Rob's lifeboat. I'm...well I'm JohnVF there, too. A former moderator and current co-member of the year at the place...resigning my duties there, I suppose. Sad what kinds of absurd hypocrisy can do to take the fun out of a forum.

Haven't so much left there as I have just stopped posting from being tired of the hypocrisy. "We're not snobs except that we hate and mock everybody who doesn't do things like we do". Umm..ok. That's what a snob is.
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Pretty much sums up life on planet Earth! :D
 
I am another newcomer here as a reference from Rob. I am Shelly_D on both forums and I am glad to have another place to post and discuss. I won't dwell on my bad experiences over on the other forum, and I haven't completely given up on them, but sometimes I get tired of seeing myself attacked as has happened recently. I am rather impressed that just by joining up and not even posting yet (this is my first) I have already had 2 friend requests. I can't think of a better first impression, Thank you.:D

Shelly_D
 
shelly_d... Hello & Welcome to AudioShark!!!

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JohnVF said:
Count me in as one of the refugees that jumped into Rob's lifeboat. I'm...well I'm JohnVF there, too. A former moderator and current co-member of the year at the place...resigning my duties there, I suppose. Sad what kinds of absurd hypocrisy can do to take the fun out of a forum.

Haven't so much left there as I have just stopped posting from being tired of the hypocrisy. "We're not snobs except that we hate and mock everybody who doesn't do things like we do". Umm..ok. That's what a snob is.
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John,I remember you from that "Other Place". Thanks for coming over, and we promise in this place we will stay civil,and supportive of each other !!
 
shelly_d said:
I am another newcomer here as a reference from Rob. I am Shelly_D on both forums and I am glad to have another place to post and discuss. I won't dwell on my bad experiences over on the other forum, and I haven't completely given up on them, but sometimes I get tired of seeing myself attacked as has happened recently. I am rather impressed that just by joining up and not even posting yet (this is my first) I have already had 2 friend requests. I can't think of a better first impression, Thank you.:D

Shelly_D
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Shelly, Welcome to the warm waters at AS !!!!!
 
Welcome Shelly. We don't allow any "attacks" even though we have shark in our name!
 
Welcome friend

No attacks, no snobbery, no disrespect here..just a friendly place to talk audio....a very big Arcorob welcome !

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shelly_d said:
I am another newcomer here as a reference from Rob. I am Shelly_D on both forums and I am glad to have another place to post and discuss. I won't dwell on my bad experiences over on the other forum, and I haven't completely given up on them, but sometimes I get tired of seeing myself attacked as has happened recently. I am rather impressed that just by joining up and not even posting yet (this is my first) I have already had 2 friend requests. I can't think of a better first impression, Thank you.:D

Shelly_D
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Hi Shelly, and
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shelly_d said:
I am another newcomer here as a reference from Rob. I am Shelly_D on both forums and I am glad to have another place to post and discuss. I won't dwell on my bad experiences over on the other forum, and I haven't completely given up on them, but sometimes I get tired of seeing myself attacked as has happened recently. I am rather impressed that just by joining up and not even posting yet (this is my first) I have alreaqdy had 2 friend requests. I can't think of a better first impression, Thank you.:D

Shelly_D
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Welcome to AS Shelly!!!:hi:
 
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