Power - what do you do?

I've went through a ton of idea and so far the best results I've gotten was from the pure power regeneration units . There a bit of a pain to deal with and always a wait for it cause the custom build them but there so,e of the best around and dam clean outputs .. Stepping up from there and if there is no budget , tri point ac and ground systems are as good as it gets but will run so serious change . Not sure what the heck Miguel put in them big old boxes but they are truly amazing would love to but one in my demo system but he just release a new version and if I'm going to I would do the complete flagship system and even at dealer cost looking at close to 100k with all the silver cable I would need for the ground system so for now using 4 pure power units and they get it done until budget allows for his gear ..
 
... so far the best results I've gotten was from the pure power regeneration units ......

I too have owned two of the Purepower units, and while they do clean up the incoming power, they do not deal with the noise that is created by the components themselves, which can then degrade the performance of another in your system, and thus the need for more than one regenerator. The Shunyata approach has proven superior in my system. The real problem with Purepower is their terrible customer service. If you need service, many have found the company impossible to deal with. The nightmares are well documented on other forums. Unless things have changed, I would avoid them.
 
Declamatory marketing word of the month...."Cohergenic".

Balderdash.
 
Yes, it was installed over a month ago. Very pleased with it. Solved some severe electrical problems I'd been having for the better part of a year. Really the way to go if putting a dedicated panel in your home is possible. I'm still using a Shunyata Triton and Typhon for the front end and Typhons for each amp as well. Works well with the Torus.

I too have owned two of the Purepower units, and while they do clean up the incoming power, they do not deal with the noise that is created by the components themselves, which can then degrade the performance of another in your system, and thus the need for more than one regenerator. The Shunyata approach has proven superior in my system. The real problem with Purepower is their terrible customer service. If you need service, many have found the company impossible to deal with. The nightmares are well documented on other forums. Unless things have changed, I would avoid them.

In my opinion Frank and MtnHam have this issue captured well. I see three areas that need to be addressed in the power equation:

1) Protect the system from the dirt on the incoming power grid.
2) Protect the system from the dirt it creates itself.
3) Avoid ground loops (differential electrical potential at various system grounds which causes extraneous current to flow from components connected via interconnects causing noise).

In my search for the optimum approach to address all three issues I have yet to find a single product that excels at all three categories.

Active systems like regenerators or isolation transformers tend to be best at addressing issue (1) but in doing so must be designed to enhance and not reduce impulse current. IMO the Torus AVR gear is exceptional here.

Passive systems that isolate individual duplex outlets from each other with high efficiency filters and absorption materials are excellent at addressing issue (2). IMO Audience and Shunyata are exceptional here.

Issue (3) can only be addressed with an effective star grounding design for the entire system including home-runs back to the electrical panel for each circuit using the exact same length and gauge wire, a single dedicated grounding rod shared only by the systems dedicated lines, and internal star grounding designed into whatever is used as a distribution system at any of the dedicated outlets. It is my understanding that the Audience and Ansuz products use internal star grounding (I have heard Shunyata does not but have not confirmed.)

So if I am getting this right, it seems like Frank has dialed this in to near perfection assuming he followed the star grounding design approach going back to his Torus. The Torus lets nothing in from the grid and all system generated propagation is absorbed by the Typhons at the amps and the Triton and Typhon in combination at the front end. Impulse current is actually enhance by the Torus and then system noise is eliminated with an ultra high efficiency passive approach.

Bravo Frank.
 
So I am getting very close to pulling the trigger on a Torus Wall Mount AVR 60 BAL to feed (3) 20 amp lines to my room. If anyone one thinks I am nuts speak now or forever hold your peace.
 
I have got the BIT 20 and have never look back since...Plitron transformer is well known among high end components. [emoji106]


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I use a Consonance D-Linear 15 Ultra power conditioner that I bought from Grant Fidelity. I have a lot of aquarium lights and pumps so I needed to clean up the AC. The Consonance conditioner lowers the backround noise (darker background) and does not limit dynamics. I also use it for my projector and plasma tv. It has worked flawlessly for me for the past year or so (can't remember exactly when I bought it).
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Wow! Your voltage is so high!! 16.5 more than the 230 it should be. Mine is always a few Volts lower as you can see in the UPS in the utilities corner in my old basement:
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A friend of mine tested 13 different conditioners and he swears Audience was the best.

I am extremely happy with mine, the Audience AR6-TSS. What it did to smooth out the treble in my system, which sounded quite harsh at times, was amazing. However, I will caution that plugging the amps into the unit can results in some loss in dynamics, more so on the Pass XA-100.8's than on the Soulution 501's but I did hear it with both amps. Penthouse's suggestion to plug the amps directly into the wall is the best solution, I am considering do this and adding some Furutech Flux-50 filters for each amp.

Ken
 
I run pure power 3000 and they work darn well . I did demo the tri point conditioner and ref ground system and it's flat out amazing . I swore if you opened the cover there was all magical hamster in there that lived off sucking noise out of the power . That's the only logica
reason I could find for such a dramatic improvement in my system. Of all the things I've swapped over the years it's made the most dramatic change out of everything not just power I mean any single swap .maybe the MSB dac was a bit larger improvement buch not by much at all . I have no clue what the heck Mr. Alvarez did in them giant fancy cigar humidors but I now know why he can charge 150k + for a power system and always be back orderd ... One day !!
 
I am extremely happy with mine, the Audience AR6-TSS. What it did to smooth out the treble in my system, which sounded quite harsh at times, was amazing. However, I will caution that plugging the amps into the unit can results in some loss in dynamics, more so on the Pass XA-100.8's than on the Soulution 501's but I did hear it with both amps. Penthouse's suggestion to plug the amps directly into the wall is the best solution, I am considering do this and adding some Furutech Flux-50 filters for each amp.

Ken

Ken,

Please advise if you try this approach with your 501's. I have been in contact with Furutech in Japan and they assure me the Flux 50's are passive in all ways and will have no impact on instantaneous current. I am planning to go this way but the more info the better. I probably won't be doing my full install until for a few months but if I beat you to it I will let you know. Thanks,
 
The thing I've found most efficient so far, is to use simple power conditioners on other machines in the house, esp. TV, router, washing machines...

I tried a UPS with my server, and while the effect was spectacular, it was not good -- timbres were very impressive but the pleasure of music was gone. Clearly it created as many problems as it solved.
 
Ken,

Please advise if you try this approach with your 501's. I have been in contact with Furutech in Japan and they assure me the Flux 50's are passive in all ways and will have no impact on instantaneous current. I am planning to go this way but the more info the better. I probably won't be doing my full install until for a few months but if I beat you to it I will let you know. Thanks,

Thanks Paul, I'll definitely let you know the outcome if I add the Flux-50 filters. FWIW, everyone I've ever spoken to about the Flux-50 told me they didn't limit the dynamics of their amplifiers, and this included some extremely high end systems.

Ken
 
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