Power Cords

jinjuku said:
How many people have spent more on P.C's than it would have cost to either put in a dedicated sub-panel with it's own ground or better yet gone with -60 | 0 | +60 balanced power?
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It doesn't even need to be a sub-panel. With a US type system, just run a heavy feeder (say 40 to 60 Amps) to a central point in the listening room and use a small 6 breaker box.

What the heck does 'it's own ground' mean?

Note that a balanced power system comes with lots of added NEC rules.
 
Speedskater said:
It doesn't even need to be a sub-panel. With a US type system, just run a heavy feeder (say 40 to 60 Amps) to a central point in the listening room and use a small 6 breaker box.

What the heck does 'it's own ground' mean?

Note that a balanced power system comes with lots of added NEC rules.
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It means the panel has it's own ground rod so the ground reference point changes and I think is code dependent. Yes balanced power has a lot more requirements. I don't see the cost in a systems that have $ decade cost it being a pricing objection.
 
jinjuku said:
It means the panel has it's own ground rod so the ground reference point changes and I think is code dependent. Yes balanced power has a lot more requirements. I don't see the cost in a systems that have $ decade cost it being a pricing objection.
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Not sure where you live but in my area, all grounds terminate to one ground. If you have the neutral and ground bonded at a subpanel, then you'll get neutral return current through the ground wire back to the main panel (since there are now multiple paths). Even worse, if the neutral ever has a fault, everything will continue to work but you'll have all the current on the ground, which also means that you can now be electrocuted by touching the panel chassis, for example. The ground and neutral must be bonded only at one place (in the main panel) to avoid this.Thats how the electricians handled mine.
 
BlueFox said:
Yes, I agree. The point I was trying to make is that while I have a new piece of gear I don’t have to get a new power cord, or new interconnects, or anything else, in order for it to work at its best. Sure, it has to burnin for some period of time, but that is true of anything.

Happy New Year.
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What if new piece NOT Pass, say Convergent Black Path or Robert Koda K10 ... ? It might or might not work with existing cables.

Cables don't exist in a vacuum but in a system of components. You chose cables, amp, speaker ... based on the combinations of sound / tone. Everything has an unique sonic characteristic and a tone control IMO.
 
knghifi said:
What if new piece NOT Pass, say Convergent Black Path or Robert Koda K10 ... ? It might or might not work with existing cables.
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might not work ?? ridiculous .........

Cables don't exist in a vacuum but in a system of components. You chose cables, amp, speaker ... based on the combinations of sound / tone.
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while there is truth in what you say I wish I had a nickel for every audiophile who puts more credence in choosing 'wire' vs. an acoustically correct room.
 
jinjuku said:
It means the panel has it's own ground rod so the ground reference point changes and I think is code dependent. Yes balanced power has a lot more requirements. I don't see the cost in a systems that have $ decade cost it being a pricing objection.
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As Chris (CPP) just posted, with a US type code, all the ground rods terminat at one place and that place is near the service entrance/main breaker panel.

There are a few industrial situations that have different rules.
 
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