Munich High End 2018

Elberoth said:
The Magicos M6 were a star of the show for me. By far. I have spent 90 min in Magico's room. I don't recall spending that much time in a single room EVER on any show I've visited in the past 25+ years. The M6 alone were worth the trip to Munich.

It is also probably the first time I really liked a Soulution based system. The system sounded better when the Kronos TT was in action instead of the Soulution CD - another proof that the less Soulution in a system, the more music.

I have the smaller M3s, so certain qualities like incredible smoothness and resolution, lack of gran and coloration, were sth I was accustomed to. But the effortless bass and macrodynamics, transformed this great speaker into sth rather spectacular.

I liked the M6 much better then the Rockoprt Lyra in another room (although in all fairness - the Rockoports system was based on the cheaper Soulution 500-series components, not the top of the line 700 like Magico's). Somehow I expected the speakers to be much closer in performance. I did not hear that smoothness coupled with infinite resolution of the Magicos and the uncany palpability.

Another pair of Lyras in the Absolare room sounded very 'nice', but way too slow and colored on the Absolare hybrids.

BTW - spending 90min in one room let me notice things that I haven't noticed before: how much the system balance changes depending on how many people were in the room and where are you sitting. The system went from upfront (on bright recordings with less people in the room), to rolled off, warm and beguiling kind of sound when sitting in row 2-3, with the room full of people.

Sth to keep in mind when visiting hi-fi shows.

But certain qualities of the speaker shone through irrespective of music and # of ppl in the room - namely infinite resolution, lack of coloration and effortless of sound.
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Your statement of "less Soulution in a system, the more music" rather contradicts your subsequent claim of "really liking" the soulution system pairing with the M6. Unless you meant the soulution gear was standing in a way of the M6 sounding much better. I seriously doubt this to be the case IMO as MAGICO have tested their speakers with a variety of amplifiers. The source at play was not a soulution CD but a 760 DAC, which can sound absolutely fabulous when properly set up, ( personal experience as I have it in my system). The 760 has been optimized to sound its best over Ethernet which was not the case in Munich. The choice of digital cable and digital music library also makes a significant difference. (Aurender not being the best choice either IMHO). Claiming that Kronos playback > soulution playback is therefore rather presumptuous as the sound is a result of numerous interdependent factors. Judging show demos is always a bit precarious from my experience.The soulution/ M6 pairing was really lovely but a fell quite a bit short of "infinite resolution". For that, you would need a perfectly acoustically optimised room with ideal speaker placement, state of art Mains filtration, best cabling etc. Again, it is about the circumstances, not just the gear.
 
Elberoth said:
I liked the M6 much better then the Rockoprt Lyra in another room (although in all fairness - the Rockoports system was based on the cheaper Soulution 500-series components, not the top of the line 700 like Magico's). Somehow I expected the speakers to be much closer in performance. I did not hear that smoothness coupled with infinite resolution of the Magicos and the uncany palpability.

Another pair of Lyras in the Absolare room sounded very 'nice', but way too slow and colored on the Absolare hybrids.
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Thanks for the comparison note. I am interested to know how these two great speakers compare. I wasn't at Munich. Some of my friends who went gave me opposite feedback about M6 vs Lyra. It is interesting that different ears hear different things with different conclusions.
 
Alectiong said:
Thanks for the comparison note. I am interested to know how these two great speakers compare. I wasn't at Munich. Some of my friends who went gave me opposite feedback about M6 vs Lyra. It is interesting that different ears hear different things with different conclusions.
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Indeed. I have spent a great deal of time in both rooms. It would be interesting to know, which room they are refereing to, as Lyra / Absolare and Lyra / Soulution, sounded very different.

I was at Munich with a bunch of friends (reviewers and dealers) and all 10 or 15 people I've talked to, were more impressed by the M6.
 
Elberoth said:
Indeed. I have spent a great deal of time in both rooms. It would be interesting to know, which room they are refereing to, as Lyra / Absolare and Lyra / Soulution, sounded very different.

I was at Munich with a bunch of friends (reviewers and dealers) and all 10 or 15 people I've talked to, were more impressed by the M6.
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Not doubting your conclusion. Some of my friends preferred M6, others preferred Lyra. Personal tastes I suppose.


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wisnon said:
Some more Munich pix...
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Interesting! The guy doesn't seem to know how to write his own name :-)
 
Umberto said:
Our Piazzolla Master Tape in Wilson/Nagra setup:

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Umberto,

As a Piazzolla fan I am curious to know more about these demos. (Fantastic sound by the way!)
Did you just take a Piazzolla from your personal collection to Munich?

Or are you from the recording industry? Just curious as I am always looking for Piazzolla material.

Regards.
 
Priaptor said:
I knew it was just a matter of time until the M3s were leaving your domicile for the M6.

You can say no all you want, but let me be the first to congratulate you on your new purchase!
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I really wish! Unfortunately, my listening room is just too small to support them (14' x 19').
 
I feel. My room is medium size too. As much as I would love your old S5 mk2s and beyond that the M3s and ideally the M6s (budget aside), I don’t have the physical space to make any of those options workable from a practical (and value) perspective. A big ups to Mike - he taught me that it is all about sizing a speaker to pressurize the room size you have.
 
That is really a shame, as I love the speaker. IMO this is by far the best and most complete speaker they have made.
 
Elberoth said:
That is really a shame, as I love the speaker. IMO this is by far the best and most complete speaker they have made.
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Adam, I am shocked you have not yet made the trade up to the PACIFIC. RUN, DONT WALK! LOL
The PCM is sublime.
 
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