Magico A5’s Arrive!!!!

I love my INT250, sound great with Studio2. I wanted Pass separates but due to WAF (I can't have too many boxes sitting in the small living room) I had to simplify to one box INT250.

Calvin said:
i have the A3s paired with Pass 260.8s and XP-22 and they are absolutely amazing. The A5s are very tempting and I have no doubt that they would sound good with the Pass INT 60/250.
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Mike said:
There are not many dealers that carry Pass, and I think you know why. I do, because I like Nelson and the entire team and love the product.
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Yes, and your customers benefit from your representation and service, Mike.

It is not as easy as blaming Reno Hifi, though. My local dealer told me years ago, and certainly before Reno started as a trade in/refurbishment business for discontinued Pass products. My dealer told me that two brands he represented told him that if they took on Pass, they would pull their products. I guess they did not want to compete. My dealer says he considered it because they like Pass too. Tough decisions. I believe the story, but can not verify it.
 
PeterA said:
Yes, and your customers benefit from your representation and service, Mike.

It is not as easy as blaming Reno Hifi, though. My local dealer told me years ago, and certainly before Reno started as a trade in/refurbishment business for discontinued Pass products. My dealer told me that two brands he represented told him that if they took on Pass, they would pull their products. I guess they did not want to compete. My dealer says he considered it because they like Pass too. Tough decisions. I believe the story, but can not verify it.
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Hard to say, but the fly in the ointment is a deterrent.


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Alpinist said:
If you liked the A3’s, I would think the A5’s would be worth a serious listen. I also owned the Salon 2’s before I purchased the Vandersteen 7 Mk2’s and they were excellent speakers, but over time, newer technology eventually usurps even the best components.

Ken
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Wow....that is quite the step up!! I'm definitely going to give the A5 a listen....once stores reopen. One advantage of going to those over the Salon2 is I could eliminate one set of monoblocks and associated cabling.
 
PeterA said:
Yes, and your customers benefit from your representation and service, Mike.

It is not as easy as blaming Reno Hifi, though. My local dealer told me years ago, and certainly before Reno started as a trade in/refurbishment business for discontinued Pass products. My dealer told me that two brands he represented told him that if they took on Pass, they would pull their products. I guess they did not want to compete. My dealer says he considered it because they like Pass too. Tough decisions. I believe the story, but can not verify it.
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With so many brands, I would support Pass and let the chips fall. Perhaps a bit of ignorance, but when you have overhead your responsible for you need diversity, I can’t think of a better time than now for the reason why


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UltraFast69 said:
With so many brands, I would support Pass and let the chips fall. Perhaps a bit of ignorance, but when you have overhead your responsible for you need diversity, I can’t think of a better time than now for the reason why


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That’s my thinking exactly and how can you beat the value?
 
I have a weird question that has been bothering me.

Is it ever necessary to equalize the internal air pressure of the speaker cabinet with the local atmospheric pressure? Say if a set of these speakers are built at roughly sea level (Hayward, Ca) and then shipped to a customer in Denver?


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nile49 said:
I have a weird question that has been bothering me.

Is it ever necessary to equalize the internal air pressure of the speaker cabinet with the local atmospheric pressure? Say if a set of these speakers are built at roughly sea level (Hayward, Ca) and then shipped to a customer in Denver?


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Why do you think the speakers are completely air tight?
 
nile49 said:
I have a weird question that has been bothering me.

Is it ever necessary to equalize the internal air pressure of the speaker cabinet with the local atmospheric pressure? Say if a set of these speakers are built at roughly sea level (Hayward, Ca) and then shipped to a customer in Denver?


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If the speaker cabinets were 100% air tight, yes, it would be a problem in your scenario and the cones would be damaged. However, I seriously doubt that any design is 100% air tight. In kayak watertight bulkheads, there’s usually a pinhole to prevent this type of damage.

Ken
 
Alpinist said:
If the speaker cabinets were 100% air tight, yes, it would be a problem in your scenario and the cones would be damaged. However, I seriously doubt that any design is 100% air tight. In kayak watertight bulkheads, there’s usually a pinhole to prevent this type of damage.

Ken
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Thanks for your input Ken. I do wonder about the permeability of the cone/surround etc. A pinhole seems sacrilege but I guess that’s just the sort of design question I have. In my alleged scenario I figure the difference would be roughly 10 psi Hayward to Denver.

Warren


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I've had sealed box speakers for a little over a year now and I never considered that concern. I wonder what the difference would be from Britain to Chicago?
 
If we go this far, temperature also comes into the picture, volume of air will be larger at higher temperature (in an enclosed box that means more pressure)
 
steve59 said:
I've had sealed box speakers for a little over a year now and I never considered that concern. I wonder what the difference would be from Britain to Chicago?
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I suppose it depends on where it came from exactly.

It makes sense that they would equalize on their own with a little time. I do recall one comment I remember hearing when I attended a Q3 introduction event years ago where the owner of the shop said that they had never heard a speakers character change so drastically from when it was first pulled out of the box. Maybe it could have been related?

Anyways, just speculation and something that I hadn’t heard discussed before.


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nile49 said:
Thanks for your input Ken. I do wonder about the permeability of the cone/surround etc. A pinhole seems sacrilege but I guess that’s just the sort of design question I have. In my alleged scenario I figure the difference would be roughly 10 psi Hayward to Denver.

Warren

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Hi Warren,

A pinhole built into the cabinet wouldn’t be sacrilege at all because it would allow a very slow equalization of the inside and outside pressure without affecting the performance of the sealed loudspeaker. You would still have full back pressure on the driver cones and the pinhole would be too small to release any bass energy like in a reflex design.

Ken
 
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