Lumin U1MINI

fguinaldo said:
Hello from Spain, I have a Lumin U1 Mini with a DAD WADIA DI 322 sounds fabulous but I have small problem. When I change the song by pressing the forward button to the next song I have a click that appears on the speakers of my computer, this is only done by the USB input. To not make this click I have to first press pause and then select the next song. If I load the whole album and let all the songs go by, it does not do it only at the end of the last song, it also clicks. The equipment has the latest software version 11.2 installed.
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Please check whether this click sound occurs only on PCM, or only on DSD, or both. If it only occurs with one but not the other, then you can use Lumin re-sampling to change one to other first.

If it occurs with both formats, please try the coaxial input of your DAC. If it only occurs with USB input but not coaxial input, then this is perhaps the characteristic of your DAC for handling USB start / stop. The reason playing the album from start to finish does not have such sound in the middle track changes is because U1 MINI plays them in a gapless manner - so USB start stop does not occur in the middle. Some DACs have relay inside and may cause clicking. In some designs, the relay click may also cause a click sound to be heard in the speakers.
 
wklie said:
Please check whether this click sound occurs only on PCM, or only on DSD, or both. If it only occurs with one but not the other, then you can use Lumin re-sampling to change one to other first.

If it occurs with both formats, please try the coaxial input of your DAC. If it only occurs with USB input but not coaxial input, then this is perhaps the characteristic of your DAC for handling USB start / stop. The reason playing the album from start to finish does not have such sound in the middle track changes is because U1 MINI plays them in a gapless manner - so USB start stop does not occur in the middle. Some DACs have relay inside and may cause clicking. In some designs, the relay click may also cause a click sound to be heard in the speakers.
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OK thanks
I have another problem I can not see the music that I have on the network disk is WD MYBOOKLIVE I put some pictures of how I appear in the application of Lumin.

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I have a Lumin U1 mini on the way, I'm changing my digital front end from a modded mac mini >Schiit Yiggy/Gustard X22 to Lumin U1 mini >Denafrips Terminator. I wanted one player that did PCM/DSD great, hope this all works out.
 
Peter, is the optical output able to support DSD (DoP) and PCM 192/24? Based on the spec it should be able to do so but just want to make sure. Thanks
 
Yes, all outputs are capable of DSD64 in DoP format and 192/24.
 
Hello, almost two weeks ago I lost the sweetness of the first days that I liked so much.
Now it is more detailed and with some loss of body I do not know if this would change again to the sweetness of the first days.
 
This is a report of U1 (not U1 MINI) for a Roon setup with Grace Design m920 DAC via AES, with an interesting analysis of various streamer alternatives (not copied here) in the original post.
https://www.computeraudiophile.com/...k-music-player/?do=findComment&comment=907749
Open, solid soundstage, and great height, and very quiet 'blacks'. Bass was the best I've heard from digital in my system, full and tight, added great kick behind the music. Female vocals, like Norah Jones 'Come away with me' SACD had a commanding presence, with subtle details I've never heard before, even with headphones, coming out of speakers, impressive. Simon Phillip's drums come alive, picking up each skin, and none of that smear and confusion. Cymbals are to die for, the decay is magnificent.
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I would be interested to hear from anyone who has been using a D1 to external dac and has moved to or demoed the U1. How much of an improvement in SQ have you noticed?
 
I am in search of an upgrade to my current music player (Atoll MS-100 that I am using SPDIF to connect to my NOS Non filtering DAC. I am curious about the differences in SQ between the U1 mini and U1 given the price difference is immense. Anyone who has upgraded power supplies to an LPS can also chime in. I need a player with SPDIF output (can also use AES but my cable is RCA to RCA and I would prefer to not buy another cable given the prices). The Mini appears to press many of the right buttons as I have no desire to spend > $5K USD at this moment. 2018 was an expensive year for audio and somehow I managed to stay married! The other major contender that has caught my eye is the dCS Network Bridge but the U1 Mini even with added LPS is a nicer price point. I am also assuming but will ask if 16bit 44.1 kHz Redbook music is played through the Mini that it will output the same without oversampling, etc. Thx!
 
Lumin U1 Mini versus U1/ does LPS make a noticeable difference?

Hopefully this doesn't repeat.. new to group and I typed one reply and it either went to neverland or is just showing up slowly and I am about to double post. if so my pologies.

I am seeking a new music player to replace my Atoll MS-100 (which I feed via SPDIF to my NOS Non filtering DAC, SW1X DAC III Std). I am pure redbook (FLAC) iun format and do not desire any oversampling, etc.

My first question is about the SQ difference between the U1 and U1 mini given the substantial cost difference. 2018 was an expensive year for audio and given I somehow managed to remain married, I don't need to go excessive on a streamer.

My listening habits are pure redbook CDs ripped to FLAC. I do not stream nor do I play files across the network. I stay locally connected to my current music player via USB storage. This could change but is not really relevant now.

I will stay connected via RCA (coax) if possible. I could go AES but no desire to replace the cable I just bought (Snake River Boomslang). The U1 Mini appears to connect most of the right dots. If going with a 3rd party LPS adds sound improvements I am all ears. My other options include the Auralic Aries G2 and the dCS Network Bridge. I cannot use USB since my DAC is USB-less.

So any comparisons between the Mini and full blown U1 are appreciated. Same for going with an LPS since budget wise that would still work. Thx in advance. John
 
does anyone know if a USB hard disk (ssd) attached to the u1-mini is network addressable -- i.e. can i mount it and manage files from a computer (mac osX 10.14 mojave) on the same network?
 
Re: Lumin U1 Mini versus U1/ does LPS make a noticeable difference?

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jdavis37 said:
Hopefully this doesn't repeat.. new to group and I typed one reply and it either went to neverland or is just showing up slowly and I am about to double post. if so my pologies.

I am seeking a new music player to replace my Atoll MS-100 (which I feed via SPDIF to my NOS Non filtering DAC, SW1X DAC III Std). I am pure redbook (FLAC) iun format and do not desire any oversampling, etc.

My first question is about the SQ difference between the U1 and U1 mini given the substantial cost difference. 2018 was an expensive year for audio and given I somehow managed to remain married, I don't need to go excessive on a streamer.

My listening habits are pure redbook CDs ripped to FLAC. I do not stream nor do I play files across the network. I stay locally connected to my current music player via USB storage. This could change but is not really relevant now.

I will stay connected via RCA (coax) if possible. I could go AES but no desire to replace the cable I just bought (Snake River Boomslang). The U1 Mini appears to connect most of the right dots. If going with a 3rd party LPS adds sound improvements I am all ears. My other options include the Auralic Aries G2 and the dCS Network Bridge. I cannot use USB since my DAC is USB-less.

So any comparisons between the Mini and full blown U1 are appreciated. Same for going with an LPS since budget wise that would still work. Thx in advance. John
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aKnyght said:
does anyone know if a USB hard disk (ssd) attached to the u1-mini is network addressable -- i.e. can i mount it and manage files from a computer (mac osX 10.14 mojave) on the same network?
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USB storage attached to a Lumin product shows up on the network as a UPnP media server, not network file system. To manage it you'll have to plug the USB storage into a computer.

Lumin products can play music stored in a computer by simply installing the free MinimServer on the computer.
 
jdavis37 said:
I am in search of an upgrade to my current music player (Atoll MS-100 that I am using SPDIF to connect to my NOS Non filtering DAC. I am curious about the differences in SQ between the U1 mini and U1 given the price difference is immense. Anyone who has upgraded power supplies to an LPS can also chime in. I need a player with SPDIF output (can also use AES but my cable is RCA to RCA and I would prefer to not buy another cable given the prices). The Mini appears to press many of the right buttons as I have no desire to spend > $5K USD at this moment. 2018 was an expensive year for audio and somehow I managed to stay married! The other major contender that has caught my eye is the dCS Network Bridge but the U1 Mini even with added LPS is a nicer price point. I am also assuming but will ask if 16bit 44.1 kHz Redbook music is played through the Mini that it will output the same without oversampling, etc. Thx!
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For budget sensitive purchase please consider the U1 MINI, it has excellent cost performance ratio.

Coaxial cable is supported so you can use it. You can also try to use an AES cable instead, it is usually better.

By default all music files are streamed in a bit perfect manner, not upsampled unless you configure it to. You can also configure U1 MINI to convert DSD to PCM so you can play DSD files with your PCM-only DAC.
 
Re: Lumin U1 Mini versus U1/ does LPS make a noticeable difference?

jdavis37 said:
Hopefully this doesn't repeat.. new to group and I typed one reply and it either went to neverland or is just showing up slowly and I am about to double post. if so my pologies.

I am seeking a new music player to replace my Atoll MS-100 (which I feed via SPDIF to my NOS Non filtering DAC, SW1X DAC III Std). I am pure redbook (FLAC) iun format and do not desire any oversampling, etc.

My first question is about the SQ difference between the U1 and U1 mini given the substantial cost difference. 2018 was an expensive year for audio and given I somehow managed to remain married, I don't need to go excessive on a streamer.

My listening habits are pure redbook CDs ripped to FLAC. I do not stream nor do I play files across the network. I stay locally connected to my current music player via USB storage. This could change but is not really relevant now.

I will stay connected via RCA (coax) if possible. I could go AES but no desire to replace the cable I just bought (Snake River Boomslang). The U1 Mini appears to connect most of the right dots. If going with a 3rd party LPS adds sound improvements I am all ears. My other options include the Auralic Aries G2 and the dCS Network Bridge. I cannot use USB since my DAC is USB-less.

So any comparisons between the Mini and full blown U1 are appreciated. Same for going with an LPS since budget wise that would still work. Thx in advance. John
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I've never compared my U1mini to U1 in my system but I did with a modded mac mini (using all software players) and the Lumin was better in every category. When using a ultralow-noise LPS with the mini it took it to a whole different level. I've heard most music servers at audio shows (not in my system) that's why I went with the Lumin sound and app, it was also within my budget.
 
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