Introducing Roon 1.8 - COMING SOON

I think it’s a bit of a horses for courses confusion here. While some people talk about a Roon update, others talk about a custom platform not being able to accommodate the SW changes properly.


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Randy Myers said:
I guess my point was that for most people it is irrelevant if it sounds better or worse on the Extreme. The question is does it sound better, the same, or worse on gear that they might actually use. It was not so much directed at you as it is directed at comparing Roon in regards to the Extreme.
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I totally agree with you. The folks who own the Taiko Extreme will not be using Roon on it because as they’ve pointed out time and time again, the Taiko software sounds far superior to the Roon software on the Taiko Extreme. The fact is Roon 1.8 sounds from as good as to significantly better than Roon 1.7 on devices that will actually be using Roon 1.8. The fact that Roon 1.8 sounds worse than Roon 1.7 on the Taiko Extreme is a moot point as far as I’m concerned.

I am enjoying significantly improved sound quality with Roon 1.8 on my Roon Nucleus Plus. The soundstage appears bigger with imaging more holographic. And the functionality of the Roon interface continues to be one of the best.

Ken
 
Alpinist said:
I totally agree with you. The folks who own the Taiko Extreme will not be using Roon on it because as they’ve pointed out time and time again, the Taiko software sounds far superior to the Roon software on the Taiko Extreme. The fact is Roon 1.8 sounds from as good as to significantly better than Roon 1.7 on devices that will actually be using Roon 1.8. The fact that Roon 1.8 sounds worse than Roon 1.7 on the Taiko Extreme is a moot point as far as I’m concerned.

I am enjoying significantly improved sound quality with Roon 1.8 on my Roon Nucleus Plus. The soundstage appears bigger with imaging more holographic. And the functionality of the Roon interface continues to be one of the best.

Ken
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Hi Ken,
Do you use upsampling features on Roon? Glad you’re enjoying 1.8. I myself welcome the new interface. As for SC, I do not detect anything significant, but I do not use Roon upsampling.
Khin
 
veindoc said:
just curious what is the simpliest way to add in the HQ player and what is the price? I have a lifetime membership but never have evaluated HQ player?
thanks
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Settings -> setup -> Add HQPlayer

If you are running HQP on the local machine, type localhost (or ip address 127.0.0.1). If you running it somewhere else, enter the ip address of the system.

On Windows you will use the HQP 4 desktop and on Linux you can only use HQP 4 embedded. Both priced same but you can't use one license with the other.

Signalyst
 
kzhtoo said:
Hi Ken,
Do you use upsampling features on Roon? Glad you’re enjoying 1.8. I myself welcome the new interface. As for SC, I do not detect anything significant, but I do not use Roon upsampling.
Khin
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Hi Khin,

I do not utilize any upsampling through Roon. Through all my experimentation, I have never preferred upsampling over native sampling. Native just sounds more natural to my ears.

Ken
 
Alpinist said:
Hi Khin,

I do not utilize any upsampling through Roon. Through all my experimentation, I have never preferred upsampling over native sampling. Native just sounds more natural to my ears.

Ken
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Hi Ken,
Thanks for the reply. I too find native sounds the best in my system.
Khin
 
Alpinist said:
I totally agree with you. The folks who own the Taiko Extreme will not be using Roon on it because as they’ve pointed out time and time again, the Taiko software sounds far superior to the Roon software on the Taiko Extreme.

Ken
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Ken, while that may ultimately be true, currently TAS lacks a lot of the functionality that Roon has above an beyond the information that Roon brings to the user. For example, TAS playback is not yet fully gapless. For some music that is not ideal. In addition, there are certain playback options which have not yet been released for TAS.

Again, I expect TAS will have all this functionality eventually but right now there are many Extreme owners who plan on listening to music via Roon so the quality of each update is still very important.
 
dminches said:
Ken, while that may ultimately be true, currently TAS lacks a lot of the functionality that Roon has above an beyond the information that Roon brings to the user. For example, TAS playback is not yet fully gapless. For some music that is not ideal. In addition, there are certain playback options which have not yet been released for TAS.

Again, I expect TAS will have all this functionality eventually but right now there are many Extreme owners who plan on listening to music via Roon so the quality of each update is still very important.
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Are you talking between songs, between albums, or both?
 
mep said:
Are you talking between songs, between albums, or both?
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I believe gapless refers to in between songs. My understanding is that there is currently a "pregnant pause" between songs. Making it truly gapless is on their to do list, but currently the way the files are processed results in a small gap.
 
mep said:
Are you talking between songs, between albums, or both?
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I believe gapless playback is primarily meant between songs, otherwise having pause between songs in Pink Floyd albums is just not acceptable :)

However, there is no reason why it can’t be extended between Albums - from one album to the next, it’s basically one song to the next. if you queue two or more albums in Roon, it’s gapless end-to-end.
 
veindoc said:
did that on my ipad controller but not active just added. Who or where do I pay or am I adding HQ player to my music server?
thanks
Nick
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Normally HQPlayer would run on your server along with Roon Core. It can be played by itself but the playback interface is not great. You setup the drivers, filters, and if you want to over sample in HQPlayer.

In Roon HQPlayer would be another zone or audio source (not sure what they are calling it now). In essence Roon is your controller and meta data provider. Roon Core runs on the server for library functions and choosing storage locations (folders on the server, NAS, external drives, Tidal, etc.). Roon hands the signal off to HQPlayer by choosing it as your zone and HQPlayer is then the actual playback engine.

So Roon Core and HQPlayer run on your server and Roon Controller runs on your controller device; iPad, computer, tablet, etc. For me it is a Surface tablet.
 
dminches said:
Ken, while that may ultimately be true, currently TAS lacks a lot of the functionality that Roon has above an beyond the information that Roon brings to the user. For example, TAS playback is not yet fully gapless. For some music that is not ideal. In addition, there are certain playback options which have not yet been released for TAS.

Again, I expect TAS will have all this functionality eventually but right now there are many Extreme owners who plan on listening to music via Roon so the quality of each update is still very important.
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I listen with Roon 99% of the time on my Extreme...usability and features matter
 
Randy Myers said:
Normally HQPlayer would run on your server along with Roon Core. It can be played by itself but the playback interface is not great. You setup the drivers, filters, and if you want to over sample in HQPlayer.

In Roon HQPlayer would be another zone or audio source (not sure what they are calling it now). In essence Roon is your controller and meta data provider. Roon Core runs on the server for library functions and choosing storage locations (folders on the server, NAS, external drives, Tidal, etc.). Roon hands the signal off to HQPlayer by choosing it as your zone and HQPlayer is then the actual playback engine.

So Roon Core and HQPlayer run on your server and Roon Controller runs on your controller device; iPad, computer, tablet, etc. For me it is a Surface tablet.
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Randy,
Is this why I could not get Roon to work when I used HQPlayer on my endpoint, my SOtM SMS-200 UltraNeo, instead of Roon? HQPlayer has to be on the server computer, not on the endpoint?
 
Puma Cat said:
Randy,
Is this why I could not get Roon to work when I used HQPlayer on my endpoint, my SOtM SMS-200 UltraNeo, instead of Roon? HQPlayer has to be on the server computer, not on the endpoint?
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You need an MSA for that.
 
Puma Cat said:
Randy,
Is this why I could not get Roon to work when I used HQPlayer on my endpoint, my SOtM SMS-200 UltraNeo, instead of Roon? HQPlayer has to be on the server computer, not on the endpoint?
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That is how I always heard that it works, and how it works for me. It is the actual playback engine, what is actually playing the digital files and therefore should interact directly with them. Roon organizes the files, searched out the files, shows the meta data, and tells HQPlayer what to play, but HQPlayer actually plays them. Hopefully that makes sense and does not make it more confusing.
 
Kingsrule said:
I listen with Roon 99% of the time on my Extreme...usability and features matter
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Hi King,

This surprises me. You are still using Roon, even when TAS sounds so clearly superior on the Taiko Extreme? Is the functionality of the TAS interface really that bad? What specifically is wrong with it or would need to be improved in order for you to use it? Also, do you use HQPlayer as an add-on in Roon?

Thanks,
Ken
 
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