Holy Cables! Transparent Cable Magnum Opus Speaker Cable

Top me it looks like Fangio's 1954 Mercedes-Benz Silver Arrow:

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Ok. What's inside the chicken?
Quick ces video of Josh Clark from Transparent talks about their cables

 
Interesting video. He admitted that the cables act as filters. Rather than be 'Transparent', they filter what they feel needs to be removed. That is fine if the wire does not distort what is being sent from the amp to the speaker. I would like to see the result of a 10kHz square wave sent through their cable by comparing the output to the input. If it is the same then I might consider their cables, but I suspect it will be distorted. Personally, all I want cable technology to do is have the signal at the sink be the same as it is at the source. Granted, it does take technology to achieve that, but it can be done. For example, Shunyata runs the 10kHz square wave through 100' of cable to demonstrate their technology allows the signal to be passed transparently.
 
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BlueFox said:
Interesting video. He admitted that the cables act as filters. Rather than be 'Transparent', they filter what they feel needs to be removed. That is fine if the wire does not distort what is being sent from the amp to the speaker. I would like to see the result of a 10kHz square wave sent through their cable by comparing the output to the input. If it is the same then I might consider their cables, but I suspect it will be distorted. Personally, all I want cable technology to do is have the signal at the sink be the same as it is at the source. Granted, it does take technology to achieve that, but it can be done. For example, Shunyata runs the 10kHz square wave through 100' of cable to demonstrate their technology allows the signal to be passed transparently.
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If reproducing a square wave was all it took, audio would be perfect.
 
A square wave is the summation of all frequencies, which is why it is a standard measurement tool, and one of the most difficult tests to achieve. Granted there are other variables, but as an engineer, I like a little more science than 'Trust us' behind a product, especially one that cost 5 figures. You spend your money how you like, and I will do the same.
 
Myles B. Astor said:
So basically you're saying that the specially made carbon fiber casing designed by Andy Payor and used to house Transparent's network is useless? Have you ever done comparisons? Have you ever listened to the Opus cables?
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Can anyone explain why fancy CF is so expensive or necessary. What's inside- let me guess, a Zobel network with "premium" parts?

BMW builds half an i3 with CF and it costs less than these speaker cables :)
 
KeithR said:
Can anyone explain why fancy CF is so expensive or necessary. What's inside- let me guess, a Zobel network with "premium" parts?

BMW builds half an i3 with CF and it costs less than these speaker cables :)
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Well first of all, BMW sells more cars than TA does cables. Something about savings.
 
BlueFox said:
A square wave is the summation of all frequencies, which is why it is a standard measurement tool, and one of the most difficult tests to achieve. Granted there are other variables, but as an engineer, I like a little more science than 'Trust us' behind a product, especially one that cost 5 figures. You spend your money how you like, and I will do the same.
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Other variables? Really? Tell that to KOJ. Or John Curl.

That's hardly an answer but a cop out.
 
I have a question has any wife had their husband committed for the money spent on cables. Just wondering
 
LOL. First you say

Myles B. Astor said:
If reproducing a square wave was all it took, audio would be perfect.
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Then I say "Granted there are other variables"

And now you say

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Myles B. Astor said:
Other variables? Really? Tell that to KOJ. Or John Curl.

That's hardly an answer but a cop out.
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So make up your mind, is reproducing a square wave all you need for perfect audio, or are there other variables?
 
BlueFox said:
LOL. First you say

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Tahoma, Calibri, Geneva, sans-serif]Myles B. Astor - "If reproducing a square wave was all it took, audio would be perfect."[/FONT]

Then I say "Granted there are other variables"

And now you say

Myles B. Astor - "Other variables? Really? Tell that to KOJ. Or John Curl. That's hardly an answer but a cop out."

So make up your mind, is reproducing a square wave all you need for perfect audio, or are there other variables?
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You're the engineer.

Have you followed the work of John or Keith on measurements and their relationship to what we hear?

One thing they sure don't use is square waves.
 
Myles B. Astor said:
One thing they sure don't use is square waves.
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LOL. Of course they do. That is a basic test. I suppose they don't use signal generators, multi-meters or oscilloscopes either.

The question is how degraded will the square wave be before it becomes audible.

As I said before, a cable should take the output of the source and deliver it unchanged to the sink. Any modification of the signal is distortion. Somebody might like the distortion, but that doesn't change the fact it is distorted.
 
I actually like Transparent Cables. There is a certain ease to their sound. I believe that every high level cable on the market is voiced. I just think they are priced way too high.

Ken
 
Looking at a square wave before and after it runs through a cable says a lot about the cable and nothing about whether a square wave is reflective of music. That is an entirely different subject that can be and has been discussed ad nauseum. I think that is Bud's point and frankly one I consider relevant.
 
Yes. Thank you. If a vendor wants to sell me their cables then prove it does not distort the signal. All cables distort the signal. The trick is minimizing that distortion.
 
Might I suggest:

http://jockohomo.net/data/johncurl-v.0.1.pdf

You can start around pg. 131 but the rest makes for interesting reading also about how little we know and how most of it is rediscovering the wheel. Or as Dick Sequerra once said to me when viewing another designer's schematics, I made that mistake 30 years ago.
 
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