BendingWave
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He's between a rock and a hard place for sure. He is a good man!
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I guess his partnership is a "minority" ownership.
BendingWave
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I always thought that any publicity was good but it seems in this industry people don't feel that way.
I want to be critical since only criticism causes change and change makes things better.
JCS123
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The irony is so rich here that I had to do a double-take. (Did he REALLY just say that?)
Believe it or not, almost everybody in the world would consider the cost of the items in your signature absurd. Certainly nowhere remotely close to a "real life" system.
BendingWave
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a real life system is different for everyone. This site is about high end audio and High End Audio has been around for a long time. At what price things become non real world is not up to me.
I've been doing this for over 50 years and the numbers are relative however the last twenty things IMO have gotten out of hand as much of what has happened isn't about the audio quality anymore or not about strictly the audio quality alone.
This is what is out there today and if you are interested in non high end items then I am sure there are sites that discuss that as well.
You don't search the Michelin guide for 3 star restaurants and then complain they are too pricey . You cant shop for Ferrari's and Porsche's and do the same.
Audio has many levels and from what I see here that it is about the upper part.
I do sell towards that place, no apologies , as that is what I am interested in but even at that area there are things that represent value and those that don't.
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I'm certainly not in the high-end neighborhood. I look as a form of dreaming!
BendingWave
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then enjoy it. To each his own. I can enjoy looking at cars or houses I will never be able to won without trying to tear them down. I feel the same there as well there is the leading edge and what is over the top and they represent no value either they are "ART". There is a place in the world for that however it is not al there is. I used to be a serious foodie and loved finding the best places to dine. Today I have little interest in that anymore. I still like to eat just don't like dining, don't like 200 per person meals , its just life and I don't have issues with those who do .
Audio is a system not pieces and for the best results needs to be seen in that way. Get that right and you have a great result at whatever the price range is
“Audio is a system not pieces and for the best results needs to be seen in that way. Get that right and you have a great result at whatever the price range is”
Thank you, @BendingWave. I’ve been beating that drum for years to no avail. Components, be they amp, dac, preamp or cables, cannot be evaluated in isolation, but rather as part of a system. Again, thank you for stating that simple truth.
Thank you, @BendingWave. I’ve been beating that drum for years to no avail. Components, be they amp, dac, preamp or cables, cannot be evaluated in isolation, but rather as part of a system. Again, thank you for stating that simple truth.
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I see no irony, I could careless what my system cost, im saying 99% of folks want to hear about more affordable systems and I am one of them, my rig is pricey but million dollar speakers alone, and all this is absurd
Price is absolute, value is personal and subjective. I know a couple of guys who love high end watches - Patek Phillipe, Breguet, that sort of thing. They think nothing of spending tens of thousands for a watch and they love it. I have a 35 year old Seiko I gave $75 for and have no desire at all for a better watch-doesn't represent value to me. I go to an audio show, and I want to buy all that good stuff, I'm fascinated by it all. Only the guilt that comes from being raised by poor people who grew up in the depression prevents me from even more profligate spending, that and the fear that my daughters will file papers on me.
I think maybe there is a blurry line between a fairly wide range of high end audio gear that represents exquisite performance and the ultra gear-million dollar speakers, half million dollar amps, that is made for such a micro slice of the market that its not particularly relevant. Maybe interesting, but not even aspirational for 99.9% of American consumers.
I think maybe there is a blurry line between a fairly wide range of high end audio gear that represents exquisite performance and the ultra gear-million dollar speakers, half million dollar amps, that is made for such a micro slice of the market that its not particularly relevant. Maybe interesting, but not even aspirational for 99.9% of American consumers.