Reading this led me to think about: what if the audiophile switch is replaced with an ordinary switch (with LPS if possible), while the keeping the GigaFoil - would there be a degradation? Based on my incomplete understanding of the theories behind these stuff, I speculate that the degradation might be negligible.
GigaFoil v4 Inline Ethernet Filter
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Reading this led me to think about: what if the audiophile switch is replaced with an ordinary switch (with LPS if possible), while the keeping the GigaFoil - would there be a degradation? Based on my incomplete understanding of the theories behind these stuff, I speculate that the degradation might be negligible.
In addition to lower noise, the audiophile switch also uses a good clock with low jitter for the network data packets (let's ignore the debate of whether this can improve SQ and assume it does anyway), but I suspect this benefit may be largely reduced because the conversion to optical then back to copper (for noise elimination) should affect jitter.
This is just a speculation. Experimentally anything can happen and SQ is usually system dependent and not deterministic from a single factor.
This is just a speculation. Experimentally anything can happen and SQ is usually system dependent and not deterministic from a single factor.
Jeffy
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I just tried using the foil with only the local router. The result is not as good. Without the switch the inner detail is less, quietness less, and the dynamics are a little less. The switch went back in. I also tried the Sablon and so far like wireworld better. It is brighter and has more sibilants. I will put 120 hours on it and try again. I thought this was broken in already.
Kingrex
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Interesting result with the switch and the gigafoil
Daudio
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Rex,
Check the previous page for a question:
Check the previous page for a question:
I'd like to also ask politely for the recommended pieces. I've been ignorant of this thread until now because a friend really made me look at it and he's using the gigafoil with great sucess.
I don't have any audiophile switches with power supplies and better ethernet cables but have been looking. I've been afraid to just try a shotgun approach so I'd love some recommendations from my cable modem out to my audio system. I've neglected that part of the audio chain. Ignorance can be bliss.
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I'd like to also ask politely for the recommended pieces. I've been ignorant of this thread until now because a friend really made me look at it and he's using the gigafoil with great sucess.
I don't have any audiophile switches with power supplies and better ethernet cables but have been looking. I've been afraid to just try a shotgun approach so I'd love some recommendations from my cable modem out to my audio system. I've neglected that part of the audio chain. Ignorance can be bliss.
Joe, just call me! Ken and I and a few others have been working hard on this. Testing multiple power supplies and dealing with problems with NetGear products and the like. Hint: NetGear MESH products don’t work well with things like the GigaFoil. No issues with Linksys or a number of others.
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rrwmd
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Well, I'm the friend that talked with Joe about the GigaFOIL as well as the Keces P3 power supply. Here's my experience in my system so far...
First off, I already had an Audioquest Diamond ethernet cable for awhile. Now I have it running from the GigaFOIL to my Lumin and an AQ Vodka feeding the GigaFOIL.
I ordered them both from Mike at the same time but got the GigaFOIL about ten days before the Keces so I had some time to listen to it with just the stock power supply. The Keces came earlier this week and was a HUGE improvement over the stock one. In fact, to me the delta was even greater after adding the Keces than when I first inserted the plain GigaFOIL. The P3 is an impressive piece in terms of the look and build as well. I guess if there's gonna be some break-in improvement it'll only get better.
I always wondered about the whole network grunge business. I'd read about audiophile grade routers, switches, and other tweaks. I just wasn't sure what to do or what would actually help. But this thing makes sense to me since it's at the end of the chain right before the gear.
Does it work? You betcha. Everything I associate with digital is much improved. Background is cleaner, for sure. But beyond that everything's smoother, more solid, and more relaxed in a good way. There's virtually no upper midrange glare that had been there on certain recordings.
I would say if you have a decent system and stream quite a bit (whether from a NAS or music service) try it and I bet you will be pleased with the results.
First off, I already had an Audioquest Diamond ethernet cable for awhile. Now I have it running from the GigaFOIL to my Lumin and an AQ Vodka feeding the GigaFOIL.
I ordered them both from Mike at the same time but got the GigaFOIL about ten days before the Keces so I had some time to listen to it with just the stock power supply. The Keces came earlier this week and was a HUGE improvement over the stock one. In fact, to me the delta was even greater after adding the Keces than when I first inserted the plain GigaFOIL. The P3 is an impressive piece in terms of the look and build as well. I guess if there's gonna be some break-in improvement it'll only get better.
I always wondered about the whole network grunge business. I'd read about audiophile grade routers, switches, and other tweaks. I just wasn't sure what to do or what would actually help. But this thing makes sense to me since it's at the end of the chain right before the gear.
Does it work? You betcha. Everything I associate with digital is much improved. Background is cleaner, for sure. But beyond that everything's smoother, more solid, and more relaxed in a good way. There's virtually no upper midrange glare that had been there on certain recordings.
I would say if you have a decent system and stream quite a bit (whether from a NAS or music service) try it and I bet you will be pleased with the results.
Kingrex
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Was there something I was suppose to see or respond to?
CPP
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Rex see post #111
Kingrex
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Thanks Chris. I see the Keses is only $350 or so. If they work I may try one instead of trying to Macgyver my own.
I believe I would benefit from the filter. I have a long outdoor bulk ethernet cable run that I terminated the ends, so I'm going to give the gigafoil a try. I'll use my own power supply but just need to know the barrel plug size (2.1mm or 2.5mm).
UltraFast69
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Jim Smith
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I have one that I bought from Mike, though I haven’t had time to connect it or the Keces yet.
IIRC, it’s 2.5 mm.
FWIW - my PS Audio LanRover and the Icron version I use for back-up are 2.1. They are powered by a Paul Hynes SR-7 with custom 2.1 connectors - they did not fit the gigaFOIL.
Daudio
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nevermind...