GigaFoil v4 Inline Ethernet Filter

I decided to give one a try and contacted Mike to send me a GigaFoil v4 and a AQ Diamond ethernet cable. Like the song says I am hoping the result is "you don't know what you got 'till its gone".
 
Elberoth said:
I have several Teddy Pardo PSUs. They are good.

Other linear PSUs worth checking out:

https://www.mojo-audio.com/illuminati-v3-power-supply/
https://uptoneaudio.com/
http://www.paulhynesdesign.com/ (some say those are the best; be prepared to wait for weeks to get yours though!)

ifi Power is a great budget PSU.
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Well I waited for 6 months with Paul Hynes and finally got my money back, IN 2016 he had some issues and moved his operation back to Isle of South Uist.. I instead purchased a Ken Lau Signature and couldn't be happier. Another budget supply SBoooster
 
The average consumer who does not have a renderer built Into the dac should consider a PS with 2 isolated output rails. At some point your going to realize an endpoint is even better than your server direct to dac. You will want to power that endpoint too.
 
Can someone start a list of all of the recommended digital dingleberries you need to make your system really shine? And digital dingleberries are anything you insert in the digital signal path that is not required to hear music play.
 
mep said:
Can someone start a list of all of the recommended digital dingleberries you need to make your system really shine? And digital dingleberries are anything you insert in the digital signal path that is not required to hear music play.
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People can make all sorts of list but no one is going to agree for a few reasons.

There are some basic concepts you will have to decide when building a digital system:
Do you want to fiddle with DSD or just stick to PCM.
Are you going to purchase music, in what format, or will you just stream
Do you want to upsample
How much room do you have on your rack
Do you want to get rid of your preamp and start going more integrated
What performance level do you want to achieve.

I might have missed some deciding factors, but once you make a plan per above, you have to start building a system. That system will dictate what accessories are going to provide the best bang for the buck. Accessories are not across the board beneficial. You could spend all sorts of money for very small changes, or just do a basic install the correct way the first time and get amazing results. From there you might want to tweak, but where is your money best spent. I have personally heard some aftermarket accessories in my system and they are noticeable, but small. Some are bigger and I bought them. I bet an improved power cable to a DAC or server might give a bigger bang for the buck than spending $ on digital "dingleberries".

Mike can definitely put together a package together for you. If your still using your 7 year old DAC and laptop it wont take much to make you smile.
 
mep said:
I read the review from the link you posted. I thought the PS that comes with the filter is a linear PS. If so, what’s the problem with the PS that comes with the filter?
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We tested it. It's not as good as the iFi, let alone some of the others we are looking at. It's good to get you started, but the iFi (and SBooster, and others) take it up a notch.
 
Have you guys listened to this with anything other than Select II DAC. Have you compared it to a dedicated Ethernet switch such as an Aquavox or Linear Solution.

Optical Ethernet has been around for a long time. Meridian was doing it years back and may still be. In the past it had warts. Its isolation, for the most part. There is still a lot to consider with the conversion of copper to optical and back to copper. They usually do nothing to time data packets (maybe not an issue for Select owners). If your just trying to eliminate noise, they have their own regulators that inject their own noise. PS Upgrades are showing you this. I'm interested to know what other solution have been tested to improve Ethernet transmission. I put a better switch in my house and was very noticeable when it came to streaming. Somewhat noticeable with music from my NAS. No difference with music from the internal drive.

My question as to the DAC is that MSB may be so good with its render er card that timing errors are not an issue. Others with more average DAC may get more bang for the buck with a linear powered switch employing high quality regulators and a femto clock to hand a much more consistent and quiet data pack to the DAC.

Just a thought.
 
Jack said:
Or just for the sake of streaming only you can just buy a Lumin X1 and not worry about all the added parts.
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True, but even the Lumin benefits from either an fiber optic setup (it now has fiber inputs) or a GigaFoil. I have only compared the X1 and MSB with the GigaFoil and Fiber setup and prefer both the GigaFoil going Ethernet to Ethernet. I found the fiber more tipped up, whereas the GigaFoil just sounds “cleaned up.”


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Mike said:
True, but even the Lumin benefits from either an fiber optic setup (it now has fiber inputs) or a GigaFoil. I have only compared the X1 and MSB with the GigaFoil and Fiber setup and prefer both the GigaFoil going Ethernet to Ethernet. I found the fiber more tipped up, whereas the GigaFoil just sounds “cleaned up.”


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I agree with Mike. The GigaFoilv4 Filter removes all the noise but changes nothing else. There are no downsides. It is an amazing product!

Ken
 
Whats the real net gain. Jumps out and grabs you, very noticeable, noticeable, subtle or takes work to hear it but valued as a final dusting to make it all perfect.

I'm interested but I would like to hear from some people who own the Aquavox or Linear Solution switch who add this and what do they hear. I already have low noise and femto clocking switch. I could also use my money ($1600) and get an endpoint to increase my performance.

Just trying to figure where my money is best spent.
 
Kingrex said:
Whats the real net gain. Jumps out and grabs you, very noticeable, noticeable, subtle or takes work to hear it but valued as a final dusting to make it all perfect.

I'm interested but I would like to hear from some people who own the Aquavox or Linear Solution switch who add this and what do they hear. I already have low noise and femto clocking switch. I could also use my money ($1600) and get an endpoint to increase my performance.

Just trying to figure where my money is best spent.
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Major difference. Like when a power conditioner has been added. Maybe Mike will comment too.

Ken
 
Alpinist said:
I agree with Mike. The GigaFoilv4 Filter removes all the noise but changes nothing else. There are no downsides. It is an amazing product!

Ken
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What kind of noise are you talking about Ken? Is this actual noise you hear coming from your speakers with no music playing and your system in unmuted? Can you still hear the noise when music is playing? My Roon Nucleus Plus server and my DSJ DAC are both connected to my Netgear router via CAT 8 Ethernet cables and I'm not hearing any noise issues in my system.
 
Mark, this review is somewhat helpful in explaining:

https://www.audiostream.com/content/djm-electronics-gigafoilv4-–-inline-ethernet-filter

P.S. I am nearing the end of my search for the ultimate power supply for the Nucleus/Nucleus+ and GigaFoil. I have a customer who has been very helpful for the past several months buying and trying a variety of PSU’s. I think we’ve found the winner. Stay tuned.


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