EV Cars

NorthStar said:
Unless our grandkids are smarter than us.

In North Korea they have to get rice from the army's supplies to feed their population.
In North America they have to evict for the landlords to survive.
In Asia they have to find oxygen to save their people.
In South America they have to elect new leaders to save themselves.

They can build all the EVs for 7.8 billion people, and it can rain for a full year; it won't save the planet and all the audiophiles.

Anyway, we try our best to enjoy now for everyone. What else can we do that we didn't already do.
Elon Musk you can view this as your next challenge and see what you can come up with. And that goes also to all the billionaires of the world.

* Extra Velocity (EV) ...
SELECTED DEATHS VS COVID-19 UNITED STATES
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I am a landlord. Having previously owned a small business, these homes were intended as part of my retirement portfolio.
I don't understand (nor agree with) the ability of a government to take away my source of income on one hand, while still demanding me to pay the taxes, utilities, maintenance, registration and inspection fees. Plus there is for many landlords loan payments to the bank that need to be met. All while not receiving ANY income.
If the government wishes to impose such restrictive policies (which I don't understand how this can be legal) on business owners (landlords) they should justly compensate them.
Can you imagine the government telling WalMart that they need to maintain an ample supply of food in their stores yet the customers don't have to pay for it?????
 
jadedavid said:
I am a landlord. Having previously owned a small business, these homes were intended as part of my retirement portfolio.
I don't understand (nor agree with) the ability of a government to take away my source of income on one hand, while still demanding me to pay the taxes, utilities, maintenance, registration and inspection fees. Plus there is for many landlords loan payments to the bank that need to be met. All while not receiving ANY income.
If the government wishes to impose such restrictive policies (which I don't understand how this can be legal) on business owners (landlords) they should justly compensate them.
Can you imagine the government telling WalMart that they need to maintain an ample supply of food in their stores yet the customers don't have to pay for it?????
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Well said.
 
This thread is officially a political thread.
 
King Dufus is predicting 50% electric vehicles on the road by 2030 , seems way out of reach to me infrastructure wise and all , thinking more like 2050 for a 30%cut..


As more and more Hybrid cars hit the streets, Full EV cars will be placed on the back burner for sure ..!


Regards
 
a.wayne said:
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As more and more Hybrid cars hit the streets, Full EV cars will be placed on the back burner for sure ..!
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Perhaps if this were only up to the consumer, but virtually all major governments are "interfering", and now even Toyota (which had been committed to hybrids) is having to adjust to the likely future of EVs. Good or bad, it is happening, and perhaps rather than complaining we should be looking more closely at the technological hurdles to overcome to make it a more pleasant reality.

It's still a bit hard for me to understand the resistance to the overall driving experience in a high quality EV, which is astonishingly better than any other road vehicle. As Porsche, Mercedes and BMW roll out more of their EVs in both car and SUV platforms it will become even more obvious to the doubters.
 
and now back to our regularly scheduled programming.
I'm all in favor of EV's However I don't feel that they have reached a level of practicality to where I would chose to participate.
I am against government subsidies in development, manufacturing and purchases. Let private industry do their thing . Isn't an old adage, develop a better mousetrap and people will buy it?
My primary concerns are Price, range and availability of charging stations. Until these are significantly addressed count me out.
IMO they have surpassed the novelty stage and have entered into the limited usability stage. Just not fully fleshed out yet. Perhaps great for a second vehicle to be used in the city.
I keep flashing back to the news photos of EV's lined up at charging stations trying to flee the California wild fires.
 
rbbert said:
Perhaps if this were only up to the consumer, but virtually all major governments are "interfering", and now even Toyota (which had been committed to hybrids) is having to adjust to the likely future of EVs. Good or bad, it is happening, and perhaps rather than complaining we should be looking more closely at the technological hurdles to overcome to make it a more pleasant reality.

It's still a bit hard for me to understand the resistance to the overall driving experience in a high quality EV, which is astonishingly better than any other road vehicle. As Porsche, Mercedes and BMW roll out more of their EVs in both car and SUV platforms it will become even more obvious to the doubters.
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Its the same misunderstood resistance to energy saving Class D amplifiers , free People , free minds or something along those lines ...!



Regards
 
Here in California Teslas seem to be almost every 5th car I see on the road. I expect delivery of a Model S Long Range (405 miles) this month. I have yet to encounter a single owner who wasn't extremely pleased with theirs. Many claim it's the finest and most pleasing auto they have ever owned. Many YouTubers say the same. My average daily trip is 80-100 miles. I will charge at home overnight with surplus energy from my 9 year old solar system, so Zero cost, and no trips to the gas station! Since I live in the boonies, my nearest gas station (8 miles away) charges $4.99/gallon.

Auto Pilot is proven by statistics to be far safer (fewer accidents/100,000 miles) than any human driver, although the driver still needs to be paying attention. Full self driving will happen very soon. It's only a matter of time before the many naysayers on this thread will have to change their opinion!
 
well I live one county over from the heart of Amish country, gonna get me a horse and buggy …….
 
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