DSD vs PCM as compared to what?

Rob-I'm glad to know you aren't as narrow minded as I thought you were! I thought you had one stacked on top of the other. :D
 
Myles B. Astor said:
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I'm using the new Scaena Mainframe music server right now. Sunny, who's an IT guy has done a good job.

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Interesting.

This passes DSD4x?
 
By the way, if anyone wants to get into R2R on the cheap and try it out before they make a big plunge on a deck, I have a Teac R2R that plays both 15 ips 2 track tapes as well as 4 track tapes. I will give it away to someone if they will come and pick it up at my house. This deck has the built in tape electronics, but the cool thing is that the tape head output plugs into the electronics which would make it easy to mod for more upscale outboard playback electronics if one desires. I think the model number is the 7030.
 
So will the AO server too. I also have a iDSD Micro and a Chord EX, BTW.

AL is getting a BIG7 HDDAC to test out and will keep if he likes it. Very excited to hear his feedback.
 
Yup,

AL is da man…but the poor guy has been swamped with work lately. I amsure he is always up for a call from you though….
 
I used to be a recording engineer, and about 30 years ago I had the opportunity to record a very famous organist (Jean Guillou) in San Francisco's Grace Cathedral, which is modeled after Notre Dame. I normally used a Tandberg TD 20 reel deck, but I had just purchased Sony's new PCM processor, which recorded the signal onto a video recorder. I split the feed from my Studer mixer (the microphones were B&K 4006--today they are known as DPA 4006) and recorded on both simultaneously. The Sony had deeper bass and a little wider dynamic range, but the Tandberg provided greater texture and weight to the sound.
 
Bachtoven said:
I used to be a recording engineer, and about 30 years ago I had the opportunity to record a very famous organist (Jean Guillou) in San Francisco's Grace Cathedral, which is modeled after Notre Dame. I normally used a Tandberg TD 20 reel deck, but I had just purchased Sony's new PCM processor, which recorded the signal onto a video recorder. I split the feed from my Studer mixer (the microphones were B&K 4006--today they are known as DPA 4006) and recorded on both simultaneously. The Sony had deeper bass and a little wider dynamic range, but the Tandberg provided greater texture and weight to the sound.
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But truth be told, while the Tandberg was a good prosumer deck, it doesn't hold a candle to the pro Studers or Ampexes. Like most prosumer machines, the electronics leave a lot to be desired. And if not properly aligned, the bass will certainly suffer.

Did you record at 71/2 or 15 ips on the Tandberg?
 
Myles B. Astor said:
But truth be told, while the Tandberg was a good prosumer deck, it doesn't hold a candle to the pro Studers or Ampexes. Like most prosumer machines, the electronics leave a lot to be desired. And if not properly aligned, the bass will certainly suffer.

Did you record at 71/2 or 15 ips on the Tandberg?
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I also had a modified Revox Pr-99, and since I did primarily live location recording, hauling around a Studer A-80 would have been very impractical.

I had to use 7.5 ips since it was a concert and I couldn't very well change reels in the middle of a piece. Alignment was not a problem, as I checked it regularly.
 
Bachtoven said:
I also had a modified Revox Pr-99, and since I did primarily live location recording, hauling around a Studer A-80 would have been very impractical.

I had to use 7.5 ips since it was a concert and I couldn't very well change reels in the middle of a piece. Alignment was not a problem, as I checked it regularly.
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That's why God made Nagras! :)
 
Mike,

I know this comment may create a fire storm, but if we are going to get into a hair splitting discussion regarding formats I wonder if the PCM should be played on an MSB, Trinity or Berkeley Reference, etc. and the DSD on a PD, EMM, or Lampizator etc. to provide a more accurate result.

The S1 is phenomenal at it's price, but I think any definitive conclusions about format would be best measured in systems optimized toward the respective format's playback. It is extremely difficult IMO for a single DAC design to reach the true potential of both formats equally well......but of course I could be completely wrong.
 
FlexibleAudio said:
Mike,

I know this comment may create a fire storm, but if we are going to get into a hair splitting discussion regarding formats I wonder if the PCM should be played on an MSB, Trinity or Berkeley Reference, etc. and the DSD on a PD, EMM, or Lampizator etc. to provide a more accurate result.

The S1 is phenomenal at it's price, but I think any definitive conclusions about format would be best measured in systems optimized toward the respective format's playback. It is extremely difficult IMO for a single DAC design to reach the true potential of both formats equally well......but of course I could be completely wrong.
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Why should your comment "create a fire storm?" It makes perfect sense to me. The only question I have is who owns a DAC optimized for PCM and another DAC optimized for DSD and can give us their unbiased preference (is that an oxymoron?)?

Oh, and if something is "phenomenal at it's price," is it really phenomenal? Isn't that sort of like telling two-ton Tessie that for a fat girl she doesn't sweat much? Or as Frank would say, "Is that a real poncho or a Sears poncho?"
 
a few dacs out there have different dsd and pcm engines in the same chassis.
 
FlexibleAudio said:
Mike,

I know this comment may create a fire storm, but if we are going to get into a hair splitting discussion regarding formats I wonder if the PCM should be played on an MSB, Trinity or Berkeley Reference, etc. and the DSD on a PD, EMM, or Lampizator etc. to provide a more accurate result.

The S1 is phenomenal at it's price, but I think any definitive conclusions about format would be best measured in systems optimized toward the respective format's playback. It is extremely difficult IMO for a single DAC design to reach the true potential of both formats equally well......but of course I could be completely wrong.
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Absolutely! Unfortunately I don't have those on hand. But I'm open to donations! ;)


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