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All 18 miles of our beaches in Flagler Cty are closed, have been for a few days. I'm 67 and I don't leave the house unless I go to my doctors in Jacksonville. I just stay inside, listen to music, watch TV, read. Thats about it
 
nicoff said:
That is the most comprehensive, science-based article/interview about the Covid-19 that I have seen.
The speaker is the head of South Corea’s response to the virus. The questioner did an excellent job of asking the right questions.
This South Korean doctor, out-Fauci our Dr. Fauci. I highly recommend the whole thing. Lots of solid, scientific, and factual information here.
It is 30 mins long, but folks should make time to watch it.
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The interview is a good summary of what we know but I'm surprised that people found it to be so informative. I thought it all was common knowledge by now. Maybe shows that people get their news from different sources and some sources are better at providing facts and information than others.
 
MikeCh said:
Just to add more data sets:


https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...new-york-rural-countries-hit-hard/2926572001/
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Yes, the social distancing and stay-at-home policies implemented by some states is mission-critical for all of the U.S.

Just some data regarding increase of cases over the last week:

1. Indiana Up 878%
2. West VA: Up 842%
3. Missouri: Up 831%
4. Arizona: Up 642%

Now check out this graph from an informative video from Australia:

If 8 or 9 people out of 10 stay home, the curve flattens and goes to very low over the course of 100 days. If, however, only 1 less person out of 10, 7 out of 10, stays home, the whole benefit of self-isolation falls apart.

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Reference here: https://youtu.be/HnsTAm2L84E
 

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We are awaiting a friend that has been transferred back to the USA from Sydney AU. He currently is waiting to see if he will be able to get a flight out.

The situation changed last week when a cruise ship with infected passengers were allowed to leave the ship in Sydney. 800 people have been flown to Germany to be treated.

Not sure who was in control of allowing a ship to disembark?
 
brad225 said:
We are awaiting a friend that has been transferred back to the USA from Sydney AU. He currently is waiting to see if he will be able to get a flight out.

The situation changed last week when a cruise ship with infected passengers were allowed to leave the ship in Sydney. 800 people have been flown to Germany to be treated.

Not sure who was in control of allowing a ship to disembark?
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Yeah, I have a photography buddy who got stuck in Australia for over a week. It also cost him $10,000 for his flight back to L.A.

The passengers on the cruise ship should been isolated, quarantined and screened on-land after disembarking in the same manner the Princess cruise ship that was arrived at the Port of Oakland a few weeks ago.

Its not a good idea to keep large number of infected passengers confined on a cruise ship because the air is recirculated among the cabins, which is how such a large no. of passengers becomes infected in the first place.
 
infonut said:
The interview is a good summary of what we know but I'm surprised that people found it to be so informative. I thought it all was common knowledge by now. Maybe shows that people get their news from different sources and some sources are better at providing facts and information than others.
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I consider myself more informed about the Covid-19 than the average individual. What the interview did for me, is that it summarized the most up to date (factual) information in one place. Yes, I had heard most of what the south corean doctor said, but I also learned new stuff such as the App that they are using to quarantine people and how they can tell if someone is not following it. Also new to me the process of vaporization that can allow the virus to hang around in the air which can make the 6 feet distance between folks not enough.
Sure, one can get piecemeal information from all kind of sources and then decide which is good and which one is not. Or one can watch that video and see why the CDC recommendation that people don’t need masks is not right.
 
nicoff said:
..one can watch that video and see why the CDC recommendation that people don’t need masks is not right.
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While understanding the purpose of CDC is to deter people from hoarding masks, this recommendation is reckless at best and criminally negligent at worst. Now the entire country wants to shame people who wear mask in public. This practice actually saves lives. Look at Korea, Japan, Taiwan, Hong Kong and Singapore where there’s a strong culture of wearing masks.
 
On the advice of Fauci and Birx the POTUS has extended the Social Distancing guidelines in the U.S. until April 30.
 
infonut said:
The interview is a good summary of what we know but I'm surprised that people found it to be so informative. I thought it all was common knowledge by now. Maybe shows that people get their news from different sources and some sources are better at providing facts and information than others.
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When the price of making a mistake is high, good reliable information is at a premium. I would not consider this trivial.

Professor Kim is at the helm of the South Korean Covid-19 effort and when someone of his stature gives his time for a half an hour interview you have to realize that this is an effort by the South Korean government to share good reliable info via social media. The target audience is the young Asian community and there is an obvious effort to cover each and every step in a methodical manner. They are taking the lowest common factor in terms of audience by design. It may come across as simple but there are nuggets of info in there.

Two bits I can share that was new for me:

Symptoms of loss of taste is something I have not seen/heard anywhere else.

There has been a lot of praise for South Korea for their response to Covid-19. I was very curious to know how they did it and from this interview it is clear that they have faced pandemics recently with SARS, MERS and Bird Flu. They have already been through hell and now have strategies in place including a mature supplier base of testing kits etc. It also explains their readiness to wear face masks.



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MikeCh said:
Cleaning groceries:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=sjDuwc9KBps

A good starter, though he doesn't cover cleaning produce indepth. For that, we personally have gone to using a basin of cool water with a cap full of Clorox added to the water to clean, scrub veg's and fruits. Agitate in the clorox-water and rinse with tap water, then dry.
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We have been wiping our boxes, and each item off since this stuff started. Be smart, its easy to be safe.
 
I'm restricted to the house, but my wife is at Costco today. The line:

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Nikhil said:
When the price of making a mistake is high, good reliable information is at a premium. I would not consider this trivial.

Professor Kim is at the helm of the South Korean Covid-19 effort and when someone of his stature gives his time for a half an hour interview you have to realize that this is an effort by the South Korean government to share good reliable info via social media. The target audience is the young Asian community and there is an obvious effort to cover each and every step in a methodical manner. They are taking the lowest common factor in terms of audience by design. It may come across as simple but there are nuggets of info in there.

Two bits I can share that was new for me:

Symptoms of loss of taste is something I have not seen/heard anywhere else.

There has been a lot of praise for South Korea for their response to Covid-19. I was very curious to know how they did it and from this interview it is clear that they have faced pandemics recently with SARS, MERS and Bird Flu. They have already been through hell and now have strategies in place including a mature supplier base of testing kits etc. It also explains their readiness to wear face masks.

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Thanks for the information.

The preparedness that South Korea had was talked very early on in the USA on the news I listen to. This was concluded that from the experience of having gone through other viruses you mentioned they had a protocol in place.

It is funny that every time I eat food my first bite is a calculation of can I taste it or smell it. This too was on reports here for quiet a while.

I think the masking wearing being pushed here might have been a good thing. On the other hand the fact that there was and still is no toilet paper on the shelves leads me to believe many people would not have been able to purchase them either.

What I felt was the reason for not telling Americans to wear a mask was 1. staying clear of each other was enough and 2. don't take away the possibility of medical staff not having enough. It seemed logical at the time. I am not sure anyone really was sure how to proceed at the beginning of the outbreak short of just panicking.

It does surprise me that the CDC would not have the influence to be sure we had a stockpile of masks, gloves and intubation and other equipment.
If the news is correct we had 125,000 intubation machines in storage that Pres. Obama released during the H1N1 outbreak. How could no one in the government chain down to the person that allowed them out of the warehouse not have requisitioned or suggested replacements?
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brad225 said:
It does surprise me that the CDC would not have the influence to be sure we had a stockpile of masks, gloves and intubation and other equipment.
If the news is correct we had 125,000 intubation machines in storage that Pres. Obama released during the H1N1 outbreak. How could no one in the government chain down to the person that allowed them out of the warehouse not have requisitioned or suggested replacements?
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That is a really good question asked recently that Mr Biden has easily side stepped and finger pointed when in fact it was his administration that did not re-prepare us. Will not say more because this thread cannot go Political here.
 
I think the ball would’ve been dropped by most administrations. I was not a big fan of the Obama presidency but I wouldn’t Point the finger at him I don’t think that was his job. I just don’t have a lot of faith in any government entity to be efficient and effective
 
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