sharkmouth
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If I was in USA, I'd be buying the Torus AVR series, Torus Power , this is the company that supplies the good stuff to Bryston & Silver Circle Audio for their conditioners.
Clean power is the key to reducing the digital edge
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socfan12
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Rob, who's Rob?:what:
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Please !!!!
Btw Go Leafs Go !!!
Paul - they're playing terrible. They just switched to a dump and chase, but took that penalty late in the second. Dumb.
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You are not Rob Allen?
* Too many tubes for Joe.
Alright, alright. , Allen, I'm sorry. I am trying to work and keep these conversations straight. Oy Vey.
HaHa, I know, just thought it was funny!
I guess I am NOT a multi-tasker. Carry on...... :baby:
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So are we talking about power conditioning or surge protection? Maybe both, maybe not? I've been thinking about getting something like this but it's all so confusing. Is something like the Shunyata Hydra series effective at protection as well as conditioning?
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And if clean power is the key to reducing the digital edge how do I know whether my power is dirty or not? Not that I wouldn't mind hiring a maid!
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There is a tool I had a friend use on my plugs. My power was dirty, but not horrible. The least expensive is to swap out the outlets with something of high quality. Talk to Jeff at AV Solutions. He sells some nice ones. I'm thinking of doing this too. But I needed, surge protection, power conditioning and battery backup built for high end audio. Only the APC S15/20 has it (that I've found)
dlb2
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I'm planning on having an electrician come out and check things out. I have whole house protection but I'm not sure as to what capacity. I would imagine that he will be able to let me know how clean or dirty my power is also. I guess once I know the results I can take it from there.
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And waveform regeneration like the P10 microstrip and Paul have and my friend's Accuphase PS-1220. They're not PLCs like the Triton or Bit's, but regenerates your AC signal into clean, perfect waveforms that eliminates distortion and noise. Interesting stuff.
Just purchased 4 Furutech outlets from Jeff. I'll be using them on some dedicated 20amp lines when they are put in! Got the carbon plates w them, too!
dlb2
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So something like you have Mike pretty much covers all the bases in one box.
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Yes indeed!
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Yeah, but then again I'm going to put the whole house onto battery from my solar panels & leave the grid on stand-by, wooohooooo!!!
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You guys all know that the vast majority of our audio electronic components have circuit protection against surges, spikes, defects, noise (filtration), and all that external contamination from our wall outlets, right?
...And that connecting your audio components directly to the AC wall outlets assure full electric current flowing right?
There are some guidelines to be follow before releasing any electronic (audio components) to the North American market.
And all attempts to alter the electrical power supply from our homes, will invariably change the current flow.
But we live in a very imperfect world, so imperfections of life abound all around us.
And money is only one of them (filtration); a big one though because we are slave to the world monetary system (economics), even when living totally in the bush, or in the jungles.
To be totally free, you need to exit this planet.
...And that connecting your audio components directly to the AC wall outlets assure full electric current flowing right?
There are some guidelines to be follow before releasing any electronic (audio components) to the North American market.
And all attempts to alter the electrical power supply from our homes, will invariably change the current flow.
But we live in a very imperfect world, so imperfections of life abound all around us.
And money is only one of them (filtration); a big one though because we are slave to the world monetary system (economics), even when living totally in the bush, or in the jungles.
To be totally free, you need to exit this planet.
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And waveform regeneration like the P10 microstrip and Paul have and my friend's Accuphase PS-1220. They're not PLCs like the Triton or Bit's, but regenerates your AC signal into clean, perfect waveforms that eliminates distortion and noise. Interesting stuff.
Just purchased 4 Furutech outlets from Jeff. I'll be using them on some dedicated 20amp lines when they are put in! Got the carbon plates w them, too!
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Paul
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This is my PS Audio P 10 shows as THD in and out.
And it working marvelously according to Paul McCowan's statement.
99% of the time, the default setting (0) is appropriate and no adjustment is necessary. If your Power Plant is consistently delivering less than 0.5% distortion (THD) in Sine mode, you should not need to make any adjustments. Below are the conditions under which you might want to adjust this setting:
1) Your power from the utility has extremely high distortion, over about 8%.
2) Your power from the utility is typically more than 10V (15V for 230V models) away from your desired output setting.
3) Your Power Plant is not able to reduce the incoming distortion by a factor of 10. In other words, if your THD In reading is 8.0%, and your THD Out is 0.5%, your Power Plant is performing well. If your THD Out reading is 1.0% you may benefit from adjusting the Phase Tune. Please keep in mind that the Power Plant is correcting both THD and voltage errors. If your incoming voltage is within a few volts of the output setting, your Power Plant will be able to devote most of its capability to correcting the distortion. If the voltage is 10 volts or more away from the setting, the Power Plant is not going to be able to correct the THD as well. So if your utility voltage is more than 10V off, and you are seeing your THD reduced by only a factor of 5, this is probably normal.
The procedure for setting the Phase Tune is simple. Experiment with different Phase Tune settings and see what setting gives you the lowest output THD reading. The optimum setting depends on how much distortion is on your power and what it looks like. Unfortunately there is no way to predict what it will be.
And it working marvelously according to Paul McCowan's statement.
99% of the time, the default setting (0) is appropriate and no adjustment is necessary. If your Power Plant is consistently delivering less than 0.5% distortion (THD) in Sine mode, you should not need to make any adjustments. Below are the conditions under which you might want to adjust this setting:
1) Your power from the utility has extremely high distortion, over about 8%.
2) Your power from the utility is typically more than 10V (15V for 230V models) away from your desired output setting.
3) Your Power Plant is not able to reduce the incoming distortion by a factor of 10. In other words, if your THD In reading is 8.0%, and your THD Out is 0.5%, your Power Plant is performing well. If your THD Out reading is 1.0% you may benefit from adjusting the Phase Tune. Please keep in mind that the Power Plant is correcting both THD and voltage errors. If your incoming voltage is within a few volts of the output setting, your Power Plant will be able to devote most of its capability to correcting the distortion. If the voltage is 10 volts or more away from the setting, the Power Plant is not going to be able to correct the THD as well. So if your utility voltage is more than 10V off, and you are seeing your THD reduced by only a factor of 5, this is probably normal.
The procedure for setting the Phase Tune is simple. Experiment with different Phase Tune settings and see what setting gives you the lowest output THD reading. The optimum setting depends on how much distortion is on your power and what it looks like. Unfortunately there is no way to predict what it will be.