Audiophile CD's vs redbook CD's.

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I've been doing a bit of comparisons between audiophile and 'regular' shiny discs lately. So far, I cannot say that the audiophile discs are definitively better than their redbook counterparts. To those of you who still listen to CD's and have done such comparisons - what recordings did you use - and what were the results?
 
the Marantz STS compilation demo discs (dual layer SACDs) sound better particularly the redbook layer compared to the standard cds. they have been 'touched up' so to speak, don' know if its a remaster but the STS discs have fuller bass, a somewhat bigger stage and smoother highs.
 
I purchase the music I like and don't spend a lot of time worrying about the format. If I really enjoy the music and can find a K2HD version I have picked up a few discs.
 
I purchase the music I like and don't spend a lot of time worrying about the format. If I really enjoy the music and can find a K2HD version I have picked up a few discs.

the two K2HD discs I own are the Eagles hell freezes over and they Carpenters hits, and they're horrible. tell us which ones are good?

IMHO, the very best redbook rock remasters were by DCC (the Leon Rusell smokes any of the vinyl vers. I own) and most of the Audio Fidelity's (Steve Hoffman/Kevin Grey) are excellent, namely the Phil Collins Face value.
 
the two K2HD discs I own are the Eagles hell freezes over and they Carpenters hits, and they're horrible. tell us which ones are good?

IMHO, the very best redbook rock remasters were by DCC (the Leon Rusell smokes any of the vinyl vers. I own) and most of the Audio Fidelity's (Steve Hoffman/Kevin Grey) are excellent, namely the Phil Collins Face value.

+1 Almost any redbook cd mastered by Steve Hoffman is excellent (DCC and Audio Fidelity) and Mobile Fidelity does a nice job too, although I prefer the older ones more than the new ones. Telarc also does a terrific job with redbook cds, they put out some very fine classical and jazz (i.e. Oscar Peterson and Ray Brown). Chesky is also terrific in redbook and does wonderful SACDs (check out the 4 Jimmy Cobb releases).

Best,
Ken
 
Rob
Billy Joel : Piano Man - The Best of
Katherine Jemkins - From The Heart
Yo Yo Ma Plays Ennio Morricone This one is probably the best.
 
Rob
Billy Joel : Piano Man - The Best of
Katherine Jemkins - From The Heart
Yo Yo Ma Plays Ennio Morricone This one is probably the best.

Jim,

I saw Yo Yo Ma in concert once, he was wonderful. I'll have to check that CD out. I used be a cellist in my younger days.

Ken
 
I also have found consistent excellence with Telarc and Chesky, as well as virtually all HDCDs.
 
MA Recordings are best cd I have heard. My favorite CD in my collection is one of their's and is $16.50. The recording engineer is brilliant and nice guy. They also have sacds and hi Rez downloads. You could buy a hi Rez and compare to the same on cd.

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Thanksfor taking the time to provide your feedback gents.


Sofar, I've found that it's the people in charge of the restoration /remastering process that make the largest impact. It doesn't reallymatter whether or not the final product comes wrapped in XRCD, K2HD,SACD, HDCD, or whatever packaging. All that matters is the care andattention that each recording is given in the lab.


That said, I'm going to drop a bombshell of an opinion by saying that even the best efforts may not necessarily result in a disc that sounds better than the original release. To support this opinion, I'd like to use the following examples:

Mariah Carey - Music BOX

Alright. While I admit that Mariah Carey has never produced a 'great audiophile recording', I think her 'Music Box' album is actually quite commendable when you consider that it's a chart-topping pop album that was released in the early to mid 90's. Anyway, when I compared the redbook CD to the K2HD CD, here's what I found:

RedBook CD: Dynamic. Proportional. Not bad in terms of balance, but not amazing either. An overall very listenable disc with great music on it.

K2HD CD: Total and utter garbage. It's as if somebody imported the original album into Fruity Loops, screwed with the EQ, and then wrapped the final product up with pretty packaging. The recording is so harsh and bombastic that I barely find it listenable. And to think that it retails for 4x the price of a regular DC. Unbelievable.

Dave Brubeck Quartet's - Time Out

Redbook CD: Lively. A bit thin sounding. Good bass. Overall, it's a solid recording that's chalk full of musical goodness.

Analogue Productions SACD: Ah, here we go. This recording isn't as loud. It's also more organic, and more natural sounding. There's also less tape noise.

The funny thing is that I wouldn't say the Analogue Production version is necessarily better. I prefer it because my listening bias leans more towards the organic side of the aural spectrum. That being said, I know there are people who there who would prefer the redbook CD's more lively presentation. It's louder, the bass is stronger, and it's slightly more "in your face" than the audiophile-approved disc.

Duke Ellington's - Masterpieces

Redbook CD: Quite good. I honestly have no real complaints. This redbook disc gives this old 1950 recording a sense of air and life. For the $5 that I spent on it, I'd say that it's a mighty fine sounding disc.

Analogue Productions SACD: Also very good. It's slightly more organic sounding, yet softer and less lively. It's not better or worse than the redbook disc. It's just...... different.

Anyway folks, that's just my take on those three discs. When you step beyond the factors that nobody can control (such as the recording itself), I think a lot of this boils down to the gear that we own and our personal listening preferences. Are audiophile recordings worth it? I think that many of them are, and I shall continue to collect them - albeit rather selectively.


 
the two K2HD discs I own are the Eagles hell freezes over and they Carpenters hits, and they're horrible. tell us which ones are good?

IMHO, the very best redbook rock remasters were by DCC (the Leon Rusell smokes any of the vinyl vers. I own) and most of the Audio Fidelity's (Steve Hoffman/Kevin Grey) are excellent, namely the Phil Collins Face value.

Rob, you didn't think the HFO on K2HD was an improvement over the original redbook version? I thought it bettered the original. Carpenters was eh as you say.


River of Sorrow is amazing on K2HD IMO. Can't wait until it comes out on vinyl! :)




Rob
Billy Joel : Piano Man - The Best of
Katherine Jemkins - From The Heart
Yo Yo Ma Plays Ennio Morricone This one is probably the best.

I have the original RB version and like it a lot. I'll be ordering the K2HD version at some point.
 
Winston Ma's LIM/FIM label probably produces the best sounding CD's; unfortunately they are also among the most expensive (usually $30-$35 per disc).
 
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