ARC Ref 10 vs CJ GAT(2) ?

I have no doubt that the Ref 10 is unlike any other preamp, let alone any other ARC preamp.

Sharp 2160 said:
That is how my system turned out. The match between ARC Ref 10 and D'Agostino monoblocks is popular with a few others and works. I have tried many combinations of both tube and solid state. I am very satisfied with the Ref 10. That separate power supply is there for a good reason!
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I never had the Ref 10 with the Dags but I did have the Ref 40 which was a 2 box design much like the Ref 10.

My 2 fav preamps with the Dags were the KXR20 and the Dag preamp.
 
I could see the KXR-20 mating VERY well. I could consider giving the Dag pre another try at some point. My Luxman is wonderful, I am not even sure why I'm looking. :blush:

the professor said:
I never had the Ref 10 with the Dags but I did have the Ref 40 which was a 2 box design much like the Ref 10.

My 2 fav preamps with the Dags were the KXR20 and the Dag preamp.
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Joe. You should try and get a demo of the pre amps at home.

You will find the best pre amp will sound the best, regardless if it balanced or single ended.
 
I totally agree, balanced vs SE shouldn’t matter.


XV-1 said:
Joe. You should try and get a demo of the pre amps at home.

You will find the best pre amp will sound the best, regardless if it balanced or single ended.
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The thing is, unless you roll in NOS valves you will not be experiencing what the Ref10 is capable of. I run mine with mid 70's production GE6550A regulators and a full set of NOS 80's production Reflector 6h30-DR's.

IMHO the 10 with factory New production Sovtek's sounds somewhat hard and glassy by comparison.
 
I would hope for reliability but sometimes gear needs to be repaired. I know in the past, ARC has been extremely aggressive sorting out issues. I have high confidence in ARC and their customer service.


hifinutt said:
Although I adore arc pretty amps having to send 2 massive boxes for repair would put me off
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I bet that sounds glorious, but I’m sure isn’t cheap to install. I’ll have to search out those tubes.


Harlequin said:
The thing is, unless you roll in NOS valves you will not be experiencing what the Ref10 is capable of. I run mine with mid 70's production GE6550A regulators and a full set of NOS 80's production Reflector 6h30-DR's.

IMHO the 10 with factory New production Sovtek's sounds somewhat hard and glassy by comparison.
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joeinid said:
I bet that sounds glorious, but I’m sure isn’t cheap to install. I’ll have to search out those tubes.
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That is the down side Unfortunatly, genuine NOS 6h30-DR's in particular not to mention the minefield of several EBay sellers listing new production Sovtek (ergo what you have anyway) as genuine Pre 1995 production, there is a very comprehencive article with several comparison shots illustrating the thre main differences in the internal build that identifies the genuine NOS valves, I shall try and dig it out for you.
 
Thank you so much. I don’t know if I will be able to spend what’s necessary to acquire a full set of those tubes but I certainly want to maximize the sound quality.
 
joeinid said:
Thank you so much. I don’t know if I will be able to spend what’s necessary to acquire a full set of those tubes but I certainly want to maximize the sound quality.
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I know someone who just looked into obtaining a pair of the GE 6550A rectifier tubes for a Ref 10. He was not able to find a matched pair as they are now very rare. If you can find them, they will cost big bucks.

Ken
 
Alpinist said:
I know someone who just looked into obtaining a pair of the GE 6550A rectifier tubes for a Ref 10. He was not able to find a matched pair as they are now very rare. If you can find them, they will cost big bucks.

Ken
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I have quite a few. [emoji56][emoji56][emoji56]. Matched too. Haven’t tried them. I love the REF10 the way it comes!


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Even a full replacement set from ARC is about $1500 retail but they say that they are fully tested, vetted and matched. They even mention what sockets the tubes are supposed to be installed in.
 
Mike said:
I have quite a few. [emoji56][emoji56][emoji56]. Matched too. Haven’t tried them. I love the REF10 the way it comes!


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Me too! Are there any tubes you don’t have? :)

Ken
 
Hi I am new here but longtime looker and longtime audiophile if you talking about statement tube preamp dont forget about less known company for north amerca like Allnic Audio. Their Linestages are less popular compare to phonostages. Their are not much talk about new L7000 linestage and L8000 DHT pre amp but dam good linestages I heard last year in South korea, Audiomentos part owner of Allnic audio matched with M5000 AKA Titans mono blocks with Focal Maestro Evo,Wilson Bensch Cardinal,Dynaudio Master Temptation speakers. It was life time experience I am an owner of their H3000 and T2000 Anniversary Inergrated amp owner so you figured already I love their sound
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