Am I courting derision and contempt?

Kramer64 said:
i try to avoid Chinese products when I can, though I doubt that any of us have not purchased Chinese products, and that's just my choice for my reasons with no judgment on anyone else. There are way too many people in the audio hobby who think its their business to critique how other people choose to spend their money.
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agreed and no argument, my post was obviously taken out of context. With that being said there is plenty of good audio gear coming out of China, so to each his own .........
 
Mikado463 said:
Michael I get your point, but................

How many of these 'small European or American companies' go ahead and have their products manufactured in China anyways ? and it's all for one reason........

many different ways of sleeping with the devil.....
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Totally agree. I'm talking about the ones we know are actually manufactured in the USA or China.

I'm not saying I'm right. Just that I choose to spend my $$ to support the ones NOT made in China.
 
Michaels HiFi said:
Totally agree. I'm talking about the ones we know are actually manufactured in the USA or China.

I'm not saying I'm right. Just that I choose to spend my $$ to support the ones NOT made in China.
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Again, I hear you loud and clear and with that being said one of my favorites right in my own backyard, Rogue Audio. Spent good times with Mark over cigars and good whisky (y)
 
Michaels HiFi said:
As a whole I find it disappointing that patents or no patents - we would choose to buy an audio piece knowing that purchase supports the #1 country of IP theft, industrial espionage and theft, Uyghurs concentration camps and forced labor.

There are so many other choices we can make in hifi audio. I personally would not buy a knock off and support the above.

Instead support a small company out of Europe or the USA. There are so many great ones who are deserving of our money and support.

Just my personal opinion.
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Well yours is a valid personal choice.

Right now as a Canadian, it's the USA I prefer not to buy from.
 
Feanor said:
I just got my self one of the those cheap Chinese clones, that is, a "D5" Dartzeel NHB-108 clone ... see HERE. i got the cheaper "D5" version not the "D5Pro" version which has had greater celebrity.


The vendor says in part ...



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Picture might be the "D4Pro" version; I haven't opened the case yet. I chose Silver rather that Black and it looks great.

I paid a total of Cdn$800: $517 for the item, $283 for shipping. Ordered on July 18. shipped from Hong Kong on July 24, received by me in London ON on July 30. The amp seems solidly made and sounds quite decent. At this point it seems a ludicrous bargain.

What's your opinion on copying patent-expired designs of high end equipment?
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Great modular design with plenty of capacitance and toroid. The specs claim anywhere for 120 watts/ch to 300/ch depending on which document. Looks like more than 120. They certainly included plenty of closeups of the circuitry. Did you open her up to compare?
 
Feanor said:
Well yours is a valid personal choice.

Right now as a Canadian, it's the USA I prefer not to buy from.
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sorry - I'm finally learning to not engage the noise online - especially when people are clearly trying to start an argument.

As I posted in my article last night - it's just distracting from what we should be focusing on in life. Nothing else matters.

I'm going to listen to some 1932 USA made tubes on a hand made USA amp and not get dragged into silly online discourse tonight as I introduce my grand daughters to enjoying music and hopefully create some future audiophiles.

Happy listening. And don't worry, I'm sure China will be there and take care of Canada.
 
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