About to pull the trigger on Tannoy

BlueMcIntosh said:
Kev. I was just thinking that too. I can see it's one of my weakest link in the chain as well. Hopefully I can try the one of Allnic preamplifier next week and Shindo as well.
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A Shindo preamp is a great way to get started with the brand. Compared to your existing preamp it will take your system to a whole new level.

So many times people focus on the amps and forget the preamp is the 'quarterback' of your system. The Monbrisson is Shindo's very popular mid range preamp.
Great value, good phono stage and a great way to upgrade without breaking the bank.
Will work well with your 275's. Truth be told you only need one 275 in your system with the Tannoy's. When I had 275's I actually preferred the SQ running just one.
It is after all designed as a stereo amp, it just gives you the option of using it as a mono's.
75 watts of power (really 90) is plenty to power your speakers and take advantage of what McIntosh really designed that little 275 to do.
 
NOLG4EVR said:
A Shindo preamp is a great way to get started with the brand. Compared to your existing preamp it will take your system to a whole new level.

So many times people focus on the amps and forget the preamp is the 'quarterback' of your system. The Monbrisson is Shindo's very popular mid range preamp.
Great value, good phono stage and a great way to upgrade without breaking the bank.
Will work well with your 275's. Truth be told you only need one 275 in your system with the Tannoy's. When I had 275's I actually preferred the SQ running just one.
It is after all designed as a stereo amp, it just gives you the option of using it as a mono's.
75 watts of power (really 90) is plenty to power your speakers and take advantage of what McIntosh really designed that little 275 to do.
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Hey Paul, this is a great post. Worth reading twice, maybe even three times. :)

Can you get an Allnic preamp to pair up with the Allnic mono's you had over?
 
Yes, the pre-amp is hugely important and yes, you can improve on the one you have.

But why so negative about it, has it not been the quarterback to a beautiful sounding system the last month or two. Paul, you have even had people say "this is the best sound I ever heard"

I completely agree about using only one 275, should sound better than two on such an efficient speaker like the Tannoy's.
 
Mark, not in any way trying to knock Allnic, or any your products whatsoever.

Just trying to offer what I truly feel is some common sense advice.

Shindo is what I happen to like. Doesn't mean it is the only brand.

I owned a C2300 for a time and was not impressed. Swapping it out for a better preamp was a dramatic improvement. I'm sure an Allnic will also do serious justice to those beautiful speakers.
 
NOLG4EVR said:
Mark, not in any way trying to knock Allnic, or any your products whatsoever.

Just trying to offer what I truly feel is some common sense advice.

Shindo is what I happen to like. Doesn't mean it is the only brand.

I owned a C2300 for a time and was not impressed. Swapping it out for a better preamp was a dramatic improvement. I'm sure an Allnic will also do serious justice to those beautiful speakers.
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see im thinking the other way. give me an allnic h5000dht phonostage and matching dht preamp and a pair of those gorgeous western electric 300b's. add any efficient speaker with big woofers and im set for life!!!
 
Petro85 said:
see im thinking the other way. give me an allnic h5000dht phonostage and matching dht preamp and a pair of those gorgeous western electric 300b's. add any efficient speaker with big woofers and im set for life!!!
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I don't get this post at all. I was trying to be nice. And practical. What is the 'other way'?
 
NOLG4EVR said:
I don't get this post at all. I was trying to be nice. And practical. What is the 'other way'?
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easy there, i was saying id prefer the allnic front end and the shindo amps. nothing more, and although i quoted you cause i can see where you are coming from, my comment was for paul.
 
Petro85 said:
easy there, i was saying id prefer the allnic front end and the shindo amps. nothing more, and although i quoted you cause i can see where you are coming from, my comment was for paul.
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No problem. It was not clear at all for me. Just wanting to give what I think is practical, no nonsense and monetarily good advice. I, of course could be wrong.

We all have our own opinions. To each his own.
 
NOLG4EVR said:
A Shindo preamp is a great way to get started with the brand. Compared to your existing preamp it will take your system to a whole new level.

So many times people focus on the amps and forget the preamp is the 'quarterback' of your system. The Monbrisson is Shindo's very popular mid range preamp.
Great value, good phono stage and a great way to upgrade without breaking the bank.
Will work well with your 275's. Truth be told you only need one 275 in your system with the Tannoy's. When I had 275's I actually preferred the SQ running just one.
It is after all designed as a stereo amp, it just gives you the option of using it as a mono's.
75 watts of power (really 90) is plenty to power your speakers and take advantage of what McIntosh really designed that little 275 to do.
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JJ....I agree with one MC275 is more than enough for my speakers and Yes I did tried the mono and I don't find anything better than single either But on my Harbeth M40.1 and Sonusfaber the difference was day and night. (86db and 90db )

Before I met you I was thinking really hard on your set up. I went audio shop at Dundas three times to just listen the Devore O/96 ( Yes 3 hours drive every visit ) and I was hoping for the O/96 would give me what I want....I still like them a lot but not love enough to purchase them. (every session I came back with different results )

When I went to your lovely house with beautiful set up ( which was exact set up I was aim to purchase ) the sound was lovely even you already mentioned it wasn't a perfect room but the music was playing so nice.

However more I listen to Shindo gears they are little too warm for my taste but I really like to try in my home with my room and speakers. I found even same gears in different room and cable ...etc can make huge different. ( I never like the C2300 in my friend's house with his gears lmao )

I talked with the guy at Montreal as you suggested and he will trying to bring the preamplifier with him following week. It will be really nice comparison if I can manage to bring the Allnic pre's from Mark. :)

I found the Allnic is more lively sound and the XLR input plus the remote are big advantages over the Shindo. In-terms of SQ I would thrill to hear the Shindo in my home with my Westminster Royal :)
 
Petro85 said:
see im thinking the other way. give me an allnic h5000dht phonostage and matching dht preamp and a pair of those gorgeous western electric 300b's. add any efficient speaker with big woofers and im set for life!!!
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Steve I like that idea ! Wow never thought about mix and match on two brands ! :scholar:
 
Mark Jones said:
Yes, the pre-amp is hugely important and yes, you can improve on the one you have.

But why so negative about it, has it not been the quarterback to a beautiful sounding system the last month or two. Paul, you have even had people say "this is the best sound I ever heard"

I completely agree about using only one 275, should sound better than two on such an efficient speaker like the Tannoy's.
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Mark. I'm not trying to negative about....it just that...hmm....That impact on Tenor amp was so huge....

I'm really loving the home audition that you provided me :heart:x100 it.

I wish all the dealer out there can provide these kind of service. I'm so glad you are my dealer . :blush:

Anyway regardless as you know the Westminster in my room was the best thing that happened in my audio life :D
 
BlueMcIntosh said:
Steve I like that idea ! Wow never thought about mix and match on two brands ! :scholar:
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i know you mentioned about the 300b's being too warm on your classical music. i for one dont really listen to classical. although doug sent me some classical albums that he scored at a garage sale and i will give them a try tomorrow. but i think the 300b no matter which you try will be a bit too warm for you in that area . the more "classic 300b" sound you get the warmer itll be. . thats just what they are. just listen to jazz or rock :) lmao!!!! you got the perfect speakers for 300b's!!!! but i could also see that a better suited preamp for what ever you decide would help you achieve your goal.
better get listening.
 
Sorry JJ it wasn't meant towards you. Looking at my post I see it was silly as I was not refering to whom I was speaking. The first part about being negative about the pre amp was meant for Paul not you. I thought your post was excellent JJ.

I just want Paul to go back to enjoying his Tannoys. They are sounding so wonderful in his room. The rest of the components will all fall into place with time.

I did send Paul a text before both of our posts, saying maybe he is best to sell one of the 275's, relax, buy nothing for now and just enjoy the new Tannoy's for a while. But you guys know Paul all too well, always on the move he is.
 
Mark Jones said:
I did send Paul a text before both of our posts, saying maybe he is best to sell one of the 275's, relax, buy nothing for now and just enjoy the new Tannoy's for a while. But you guys know Paul all too well, always on the move he is.

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HA!!!! paul would last about 5 seconds with just one 275 in his whole room.lol.
 
BlueMcIntosh said:
Mark. I'm not trying to negative about....it just that...hmm....That impact on Tenor amp was so huge....

I'm really loving the home audition that you provided me :heart:x100 it.

I wish all the dealer out there can provide these kind of service. I'm so glad you are my dealer . :blush:

Anyway regardless as you know the Westminster in my room was the best thing that happened in my audio life :D
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IMO, dealers that can make house calls and set-up gear for extended auditions are worth every penny. It's hard to keep this in mind when we're always looking to squeeze that last incremental 5-10% off but the ability to try things at home for a few weeks is invaluable. Congrats again Paul on the new gear and on discovering Mark.
 
CPP said:
Speaking of Tannoy, has anyone heard the Definition DC10 T1 or the Kensington Se speakers ?
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The Kensigton's finest quality is their midrange, up there with the best.

They are efficient but not so much to make it easy to drive with a 300b amp.

Although the bass goes nearly as deep as the big Canterbury's it starts to role off early so in some rooms this can make them sound a tad thin.

The DC10 a's are very similar sounding to Kensigton's but in a more modern looking cabinet. The DC10 T's I have not heard.
 
Mark Jones said:
Sorry JJ it wasn't meant towards you. Looking at my post I see it was silly as I was not refering to whom I was speaking. The first part about being negative about the pre amp was meant for Paul not you. I thought your post was excellent JJ.

I just want Paul to go back to enjoying his Tannoys. They are sounding so wonderful in his room. The rest of the components will all fall into place with time.

I did send Paul a text before both of our posts, saying maybe he is best to sell one of the 275's, relax, buy nothing for now and just enjoy the new Tannoy's for a while. But you guys know Paul all too well, always on the move he is.
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No worries Mark. That is good advice. Sometimes you need to step back, take a breath and just enjoy what you have for a while to get a proper perspective.
 
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